Other: BlackMagic Cinema camera!!!! 2.5k for 3k...

I think that's a valid question.

j said:
>I'll keep my DSLR as an option. It'd be like switching film stock. 50D for exterior and 500T for night. Does it intercut? No. Does it matter? Not really. Just like the good old days...
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I posted about 100 posts ago that I didn't really see this is a DSLR killer, it seems to be it's own beast. If you can afford only one, you'll weight options, sure. But for various reasons I don't see that many people just dumping DSLRs to buy this.
 
Someone said earlier that they believe white balance is baked in but ISO is not. Any confirmation on this?
 
snowleopard said:
I think that's a valid question.


I posted about 100 posts ago that I didn't really see this is a DSLR killer, it seems to be it's own beast. If you can afford only one, you'll weight options, sure. But for various reasons I don't see that many people just dumping DSLRs to buy this.
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I just got a out of line and got a refund for the D800 and got in line for this.
 
Like everyone else I'm in love with the specs, but what's with the lack of footage? This camera is many peoples dream cam, and we've barely seen anything.

If it's as good as they say with 13 stops, and RAW 2K why not have a bunch of footage to show?

The only thing I can think is that they're trying to improve the image still?... If so is a July release really possible?
 
J Davis said:
Someone said earlier that they believe white balance is baked in but ISO is not. Any confirmation on this?
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Hope that isn't the case, that takes away some of the appeal of this being a RAW camera.

Also - any other lens system that's adaptable to Canon should work on this, right? Like all my old manual Nikon & Russian glass I've got Canon adapters for. Won't get iris control on the camera; don't care :)
 
John mentioned that BMD is fine-tuning the sensor calibration to get a better image. I think BMD doesn't want to release a "sample" image until it's a representative sample of what the release unit will produce.
 
Let me clarify. The Canon 5D is a still camera. It also shoots video, and you can get a great picture in very low light, and really shallow depth of field. If you're someone who needs that, likes that, especially the part about taking world class still photos, then you aren't likely to dump it to buy the Black Mamba.

However, if you're an indie filmmaker, shoot run and gun, etc., looking for an awesome deal, this camera is IT.
 
PopcornFlix said:
John mentioned that BMD is fine-tuning the sensor calibration to get a better image. I think BMD doesn't want to release a "sample" image until it's a representative sample of what the release unit will produce.
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Respectfully, that is not what he said.
 
Oedipax said:
Hope that isn't the case, that takes away some of the appeal of this being a RAW camera.

Also - any other lens system that's adaptable to Canon should work on this, right? Like all my old manual Nikon & Russian glass I've got Canon adapters for. Won't get iris control on the camera; don't care :)
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It's DNG guys. Stands for Digital Negative. Just like when you set 5000K in a Canon Cr2 raw, it will be 5000k in say lightroom or such, but you can make that 3300k if you wish. Like a starting point, the camera will metadata the input value of your cameras set Kelvin or white balance. But in your editing software, you can then fine tune or completely change the value. Thats what DNG is. Captured DNG is as raw as raw gets. Adobe uses it as a future proof to the various raw formats from different camera makers. It's kinda an archival Raw format.
 
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It's DNG guys. Stands for Digital Negative. Just like when you set 5000K in a Canon Cr2 raw, it will be 5000k in say lightroom or such, but you can make that 3300k if you wish. Like a starting point, the camera will metadata the input value of your cameras set Kelvin or white balance. But in your editing software, you can then fine tune or completely change the value. Thats what DNG is. Captured DNG is as raw as raw gets. Adobe uses it as a future proof to the various raw formats from different camera makers. It's kinda an archival Raw format.
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Just in case nobody sees this very clear and precise, laymans explaination of the white balance.
 
If you are shooting RAW and Log, precise white balance is no longer critical. Of course CC in post is part of the work flow.
 
Gary Huff: "Really shallow DOF is abused and, frankly, if you're shooting at more than 1600 ISO, you're doing it wrong."

Well said, Gary.
 
Gary Huff said:
Really shallow DOF is abused and, frankly, if you're shooting at more than 1600 ISO, you're doing it wrong.
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Don't really disagree for the most part. I'll just be a little surprised if the BMC siphons off that much sales from Canon, that's all.
 
dustylense said:
It's DNG guys. Stands for Digital Negative. Just like when you set 5000K in a Canon Cr2 raw, it will be 5000k in say lightroom or such, but you can make that 3300k if you wish. Like a starting point, the camera will metadata the input value of your cameras set Kelvin or white balance. But in your editing software, you can then fine tune or completely change the value. Thats what DNG is. Captured DNG is as raw as raw gets. Adobe uses it as a future proof to the various raw formats from different camera makers. It's kinda an archival Raw format.
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In regard to color temperature, that is what we would all expect from DNG, but John Brawley has very clearly stated that the white balance point is baked in. Perhaps he is incorrect, but I think we have to go with what he says until we hear different from Black Magic.
 
Gary Huff said:
Really shallow DOF is abused and, frankly, if you're shooting at more than 1600 ISO, you're doing it wrong.
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Why is that doing it wrong? Why is it wrong to use smaller, less power consuming, battery powered, LEDs and going up to 3200 (or higher) if it's still a great, clean image? I don't think it's wrong at all. I think these cameras that provide clean high ISOs, are allowing DP's to be more creative with lighting, with options that we were not previously capable of.
 
KyleProhaska said:
Tokina 11-16 has been mentioned many times. Comes in Nikon and Canon mount. Lots of other Canon mount options out there besides Canon spec EF glass.
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He asked how to shoot WIDE on the BMD CC. The Tokina 11-16mm equivalent will be like a standard 24-35mm on this sensor: not so wide. 8mm will be like 18mm.
 
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