BIG PROBLEM - HVX IMAGE SHIFT - anyone else?

rgbuser said:
One of member noticed that the effect occurred every 5 minutes or so. The default power-off time for the camera is, wait for it, 5 mins.
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Interesting theory, but I don't think that is the reason for the jump -- the OP was recording at the time, so there is no reason for the OIS or anything else to turn off.
 
i only ever had that problem with my agdvc7, as it had electronic image stabalization, which is common in all electronic stabalization devices. As it moves based on shake from the footage and not the camera itself, but not sure why it would do that.
 
TimurCivan said:
cut out the frames and make two or three replacement frame with Winmorph.

or just doublke up the last frames before the jump and the two immediatly after. sort of like a Video "patch" it.

or cut up the frames that did jump, and reposition them in place as a still images. and just photoshop the edges. to match the rest of the footage.
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Sounds like a hack-job at best. I guess the answer is to not shoot with Optical Image Stabilization while on a tripod.
 
Just a few notes.
I find that the OIS on the DVX100B is performing much better than on the HVX-200e.
I do A LOT of hand held stuff, and the OIS in the DVX has a much smoother lock-on / lock-off than the HVX.
If I frame a static image with the HVX and do a small pan to a static, there is always a nasty overshoot at the end when the floating element realigns. This is not the case with the DVX.

My old PD150 had a tendency to do the wacky image shocks when a transmitting mobile phone was in the proximity. I tink its the coiles controlling the floating element that will get activated by the EMR.
 
I also recall talk a year or two ago of some video cameras that are susceptible to interference from common FMS radios (which can be found on many sets).

It seems the energy output by the radios would wreak havok with the OIS system.
 
Ursa said:
And IS is very nice to have when shooting from a tripod. Like today, people were moving around the tripod, so the ground was unstable. If I hadn't used IS, the video picture would be really jumpy...
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EXCELLENT point!
The notion that OIS is always "BAD" for tripod use is absurd; and needs QUALIFYING:

OIS with camera on tripod whilst panning/tilting: bad.
OIS with LOCKED DOWN camera on tripod: can be good.

Now of course, this is assuming the OIS is working properly. The OIS should react on cam movement, NOT on subject movement.
 
TedRR said:
icicle22 said:
When compared to shooting using my old XL2 and manual lens with no OIS available quote]

Sounds like you are missing something there then.
I can't say it's better then other cameras, but worse then "No OIS" ???

I did some shooting while skating backwards holding the camera below my knees with and without the OIS and it definately was better WITH OIS. Maybe yours is broken???
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Sorry....with the weight of the XL2 and lens, plus the shoulder mount style I found more stabile images with no OIS than with the HVX200 + OIS. In short the image stabilzation needs to be stronger to compensate for the shape and size of the HVX200. It is hard to hold it stable handheld the way it is.
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I had the same problem, but while using it handheld. So i turned it off and all was well, but it kind of defeats the purpose if you can't even you use it handheld.
 
This is taken from a concert I did earlier this summer. The OIS horribly jumps TWICE before it settles again. This happened about every 5th minute, and most often after a rack zoom.

www.neomedia.no/video/hvx200ois.wmv

it happens in the last second of this 3-second clip. Sorry for the white censor strip.

And just to be really pessimistic: forget shooting at maximum tele with the OIS disabled. Camera shakes with the merest touch of a human hand.
 
I have had this start to happen as well... all on handheld footage... nothing that is normal or that follows a pattern and certainly rare but there IS something funky here not related to tripod use.


ash =o)


PS I second that the XL2 with OIS off is more steady than the HVX with OIS on
 
HI,

If you are having problems with the OIS and it is not mounted on a tripod, because this is not a good match, but it is doing odd things on handheld footage. then make a copy of your footage, like a DV tape of it and send it and the camera to the Panasonic service center. I should not do that.

Best,

Jan
 
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