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Will it ever be possible to have a camera that can fit into the palm of your hand, but also has a full frame or S35 sensor?

I want something really, really small that produces amazing quality...maybe something's out there that I don't know of?

(Of course just talking about the body...not the lenses)
 
It's gonna be 30 years but it will exist. Look at computers, 40 years ago a computer took up an entire room and for about 10 years now they've been fractions smaller. just seeing how small a dslr is, as soon as they can make the components inside the same size as the sensor, it will exist. I can see it now, like cut a beer can in half and thats the body with a lens mount on the front... crazy
 
There is no reason this cannot be achieved right now with current tech. The obstacle is demand. How many people really want a mobile phone sized s35 camera? S35 size sensors are expensive. Pros want a big versatile camera with lots of control. Low end consumers don't really care or even know about sensor size. For most, the only stat that will penetrate will be pixel count.
 
Today, a camera having a fullframe sensor will automatically put the price tag above $2000. It will take many years, if not decades, for the technology to trickle down and make it much more affordable. A mirrorless FF body would be a lot smaller but there's no market for that. Pros don't necessarily want a small body.
 
perfect said:
Will it ever be possible to have a camera that can fit into the palm of your hand, but also has a full frame or S35 sensor?

I want something really, really small that produces amazing quality...maybe something's out there that I don't know of?

(Of course just talking about the body...not the lenses)
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Amazing quality is subjective. The Sony Nex 5n has a S35 ship and fits in the palm of your hand.
 
Still too big..I used to play around with a GH1 with the hack..loved it, but I needed a real video camera...got the Sony. My dream is like the little Canon S95/S100 size...full frame, full manual controls toy with a built in advanced technology 10-200mm lens...something you can slip right in your pocket..
 
perfect said:
Still too big..I used to play around with a GH1 with the hack..loved it, but I needed a real video camera...got the Sony. My dream is like the little Canon S95/S100 sized full frame, full manual controls toy with a built in advanced technology 10-200mm lens...something you can slip right in your pocket..
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yikes. a 10-200mm lens? that is quite a range, especially for full frame. I think about the largest range Canon makes is 28-200 for full frame, and that lens is pretty terrible...
 
yea, I'm just wishful thinking, but in a silly way...I'm thinking the lenses wouldn't even look like anything today..it would be like a special government lens or something, lol...just crazy technology
 
Yea, you're never going to be limited in size with electronics. Cameras use processors, so they are subject to Moore's Law. Cameras will continue to get smaller, until, like others said, the circuitry is the size of the sensor.

Lenses, however, are mechanical. Note that while computers and cameras got smaller over the years, lenses have not really changed in size, only in quality.

You will see a pocket-sized FF camera before a compatible, pocket-sized FF-covering super zoom.
 
jetswing said:
Today, a camera having a fullframe sensor will automatically put the price tag above $2000. It will take many years, if not decades, for the technology to trickle down and make it much more affordable. A mirrorless FF body would be a lot smaller but there's no market for that. Pros don't necessarily want a small body.
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It totally is about demand, the profit margin on prosumer / consumer camera equipment is higher than most comparable industries. The higher margin offets the lack of volume in sales.

I also think that the manufacturers within the industry are too traditional to recognize fast enough the emerging space such as mirrorless big sensor cameras or DSLR's for filming movies (i.e. Nikon), thus not creating enough competition.

The current profit margin in the 5D Mark II body is about 18 - 25% depending on the profile of the retailer.

A two year life cycle on such a product as the 5D Mark II also signals the fact that the profit for Canon was huge.
 
I wonder what sold more...one of the versions of the DVX100 (regular, A or B) or the 5D...
 
I'm working on a prototype CF card slot that enables you to plug it into your head and record 4:4:4 straight from your eyeballs via your brain.
Sensors are so 2011.
 
JPM Photography said:
I will only buy one if you can do SD cards. CF cards are so 2009.
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I'd bypass any kind of memory card if it wasn't for the simple fact that many people have subjected their brains to chemical abuse which has resulted in formatting issues and memory data errors.
I suffer dropped frames that consist of a whole night sometimes.
 
Pastor Thug said:
I'd bypass any kind of memory card if it wasn't for the simple fact that many people have subjected their brains to chemical abuse which has resulted in formatting issues and memory data errors.
I suffer dropped frames that consist of a whole night sometimes.
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hahaha, a little alcohol formatting?
 
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