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senne

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Hi,

I recently did an advert for a company on regional television. It was my first broadcast assignment. I do internet stuff frequently and never have problems. But with this broadcasted clip, I was really disapointed. I know that there are a lot of different things that go in to making a good clip, like composition, the logo animation, sound, etc... But all those things a side the image quality turned out pretty awfull.
I filmed with HVX in sd mode because they wanted 4:3.
I did white balance perfect anytime, but still something was wrong.
The clip was consists out of some interviews with people on the street, so no possibility for fancy lighting.
I don't have a TV monitor to collorcorrect and I work in Premiere Pro.
You know how TV-reports lok like video and not film ? Mine looked even more video, than video !

The news reporters from that regional tv station film with Z1 all the time, so i should at least be able to get the quality of there newsprogram.
But no... it sucked !

I know it's stupid to get out there without being well prepared,but i have to start somewhere.
Does anyone understand my problem ? Does anyone have any tips considering settings in cam or in post ? How to color correct broadcast safe in PP ?

If I am not so clear... please ask !

thanks,
senne
 
Did it look good on in the video window of Premiere on your computer monitor, and then look like junk when you saw it on TV?

- Mikko
 
Sort of. It always looks more professional on a computer monitor then on a TV.
And i don't want anything fancy, just the TV News quality.
 
your question is WAY too vague. you need to tell us what it was about the clip that looked bad.

"sucked" is a subjective term and wont mean the same from one person to the next.
can you post still images or a link to a clip?

if you want news quality. shoot in 60i. and if you are doing work for broadcast and youre not using a proper reference monitor - good luck EVER getting what you expect...
 
24fps4ever said:
if you are broadcasting... you need a breadcast monitor period
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I think i will get one if I ever get another assignment.
I know my question is vague, but the thing is i can't really explain what's wrong. The overall image quality is not as good as a standard news report of a local tv company.
I think i 'll first get a broadcast monitor before bothering you guys again.

Thanks for replies !

senne
 
"is not as good as a standard news report of a local tv company" - again, that depends a LOT on what you were viewing it on... and what kind of broadcast youre comparing it to. hell, the glass alone on many broadcast cameras costs more than an HVX. you gotta compare apples to apples here senne.

and, this is starting to sound like someone who bought a ferrari and is all upset because it doesnt ride as comfortably as their oldsmobile
 
i work in post production and have used premiere many years ago. rid of that horendous application to begin with. 2nd video looks worse then tv news video? tv news video most of these days is actually shot in HD with a donconversion for sd people still rotting on this earth. Anyways yous should have shot everything in 720p got double the rez and did a downconvert and it definatly would have looked better then just shooting standard 4:3. Also you might have some other issues, why you think your video is worse then news tv video? What time of day was it and what was your shutter speed? how big was the lens open? there could be a million and one reason's why you think that your video is not up to news tv quality even tho the little hvx has only 1/3 of a chip still compared to most news company's using nothing under 2/3. your best bet is to post us a little something and we can give you more help by us visually seeing the footage.

ps. DV is bs my hvx never saw a dv tape in its life. hopefully you recorded to p2.
 
Actually; the VAST majority of news, and other daily production, is still SD throughout both the USA and the rest of the world too.

- Mikko
 
wrong actually. 90% of footage is either mastered in hd then downconverted or shot 35mm / super 35mm then mastered in hd after color correction at the telecine and most of the time even exported into dpx files/2k. then downconverted... even tho your stream will be sd now adays.... somewhere down that line once upon a time it was a higher resolution. OTHER then news broadcast of course.... but most news channels are actually shooting hd and downconverting.
 
andypaintguns said:
wrong actually. 90% of footage is either mastered in hd then downconverted or shot 35mm / super 35mm then mastered in hd [...]
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90% huh? Could you cite your source for that number?


"Daily production" means News, Current affairs, news magazines (dateline, 60mins, etc..), all that sort of stuff.
Of the 8,839 TV stations in the USA, 1241 are currently broadcasting digitally, meaning that they have the capability to transmit HD ... the number actually producing any local HD content is a fraction of that, let alone HD news [It's still mentioned in industry publications each time a station starts a HD newscast, it's that rare still].

Even the big guys are only just starting to roll out HD news. CNN for example is only just starting this month with most origination still SD

In the UK, the BBC is only just exploring HDTV, having only officially backed the ides of starting a HD service yesterday, with no plans for HD news.
Most European countries don't have HD standards in place, let alone are they producing very much in HD - forget daily stuff like news.

Is a good chuck of high end production HD? Yes.
Are the Major networks making primetime shows in HD? Only some of the programming.
Are the Major networks starting to do their nightly newscasts in HD? Yes, but mostly only the studio and graphical elements, with most incoming content still purely SD.
Is HD being used for the majority of general production? No, not even close!

- Mikko
 
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