Best GH1 short film

Too many people have fallen too much into the technical side. I myself is victim of that because I am just taking too much time on forums etc :-) I have at least 5 stories I have in my mind, I should just sit down and write them waiting everyday for news of the gh2, sony NXcam etc.

The thing is that we are at the forefront of a revolution. The one that you will get cinema style images from less than $ 3000 camera. Every time something(camera) comes along and just bring that little thing step forward. I think the gh2 is already a no excuse camera, to not go out and film your project. It has nearly everything and has solved most of the 1st generation dslr image problem. Now we could have a hack or even better for filmmakers uncompressed (it will have to be compressed (cineform, prores etc) afterward because of the massive size) hdmi footage.

On the other side, certain manufactures marketing have made sure to implant into our mind that if we don't film in 4k, our image will be lame and they have their fan boys to brain wash us all every-time the subject comes along. Its like the guy who has a bigger car than yours and you should feel a looser because of that even if your car will move you from point a to b as the other one.
 
i can accept your theory on the technical side, but at the same time i must say it's a big big big unforgivable excuse.
for what, you ask?

i'll try to point out MY weak spots:

- not being serious enough (either go and shoot or accept it's just a hobby- and i mean a feature or at least some kind of idea above 15 minutes, and NOT some leaves in the wind... NO OFFENCE :) )
- not believing my story/ cannot finish my story.
- not believing i can ever get it started/ no "energy".
- lack of actors who will inspire me and make me imagine, test, build my scenes to reality.
- it all seem to complicated (so write more SIMPLE stuff, duh).

no it's not easy. every day i'm thinking of throwing it all down the toilet. and then i refresh dvxuser page keeping on living in la la land.



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Oetam,

I just sent you a link to "Candy Apple Red" with the password.
Ben_B and others: thanks for the kind words about the film. That feeds my ego for a week! :-)
 
One of the best thing to do is to network. Internet is very good to get people who have the same interest together from around the world very easily (and you can learn a lot) but on the other side it isolates from what is surrounding you. I just came back from a theater company. I started by just being a photographer documenting a play, then started to work more closely with the group and now acting with them. I always wanted to learn the directing of actors etc etc... I have learn a lot of things and made some contact (potential actors that would fit some stories). The director is quite experienced and already has some very interesting plays and scripts that would make wonderful stories. He already like my photography and I have been telling him for month that I was coming with some very interesting things for filming (just waiting for some gear).

What I want to say by my experience is that if you just stay in front of your computer you will never do anything. You might learn a lot but won' t put much in practice. Unfortunately you don't see a lot of artist on these sites. It would have given a very different perspective. Damn where is this GH2, I want so much to get out in front of this computer.
 
roei z said:
i find it weird that there's hardly 10 feature films done with GH13..(+GH2)
i, for one, plan to make one (i should have finished it by now if i was more serious).
so i'm sure there are tons of other directors or would be directors
eager to squeeze out their stuff. this is the ultimate tool to make it for minimum budget.
i'm not even sure there are so many canon dslr features out there.

so- only 10 films? (even less. haven't counted)
i'm talking about the whole world here. maybe it's a smaller niche than i thought.
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I think what's starting to become apparent is that the camera is not the bottleneck towards getting a vision on screen, and really never was. The hard part for an indy filmmaker is this: bending other people's wills towards your own; getting them to stand in front of your lens and say what you want them to say, getting them to hold lights and microphones, etc. And to do these things for little or no money. This takes a level of endurance and salesmanship that is hard to muster.
 
MikalZ said:
I think what's starting to become apparent is that the camera is not the bottleneck towards getting a vision on screen, and really never was. The hard part for an indy filmmaker is this: bending other people's wills towards your own; getting them to stand in front of your lens and say what you want them to say, getting them to hold lights and microphones, etc. And to do these things for little or no money. This takes a level of endurance and salesmanship that is hard to muster.
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it depends on your goals. if it's hard for you to accomplish your ideas to a film, you can invest the time to write down a minimum requirement script in order to make it more close to reality (you're story contains 5 characters ? write it down to 2.. don't be afraid to use your parents/friends/a man from the street as actors. you planned 5 complicated locations? find a way to make them 2 accessible locations..)
at least that's what i do. doesn't mean your idea will be less effective. it will make your starting point more realistic.

this belongs to other discussions.. sorry
 
MikalZ said:
I think what's starting to become apparent is that the camera is not the bottleneck towards getting a vision on screen, and really never was. The hard part for an indy filmmaker is this: bending other people's wills towards your own; getting them to stand in front of your lens and say what you want them to say, getting them to hold lights and microphones, etc. And to do these things for little or no money. This takes a level of endurance and salesmanship that is hard to muster.
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This is true, but build a solid set of competence and people will follow you. If you can show to people some beautiful imagery at least it is a good beginning. They will be more keen to work with you. In general on the internet we see people who want to do everything and then don't excel in anything. Lots want everything to be simple, the thing that annoys me sometime is the run and gun thinking. Every-time you here it, as if it has begun to become the de facto shooting style.
 
roei z said:
it depends on your goals. if it's hard for you to accomplish your ideas to a film, you can invest the time to write down a minimum requirement script in order to make it more close to reality (you're story contains 5 characters ? write it down to 2.. don't be afraid to use your parents/friends/a man from the street as actors. you planned 5 complicated locations? find a way to make them 2 accessible locations..)
at least that's what i do. doesn't mean your idea will be less effective. it will make your starting point more realistic.

this belongs to other discussions.. sorry
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Yes, I would say sometime it would even be better to start with what I will call more simpler thing. Doing reportage for example. Look for some interesting character around your community. Generally they will already have there own character and universe, you won't need to create all that much, the talent will be more of being able to put all the above in image and bring out the emotion out of it. For example you won't need actors as he will play his own role just by being himself. For example I intend to do that with some friends (one working at the local tv as a journalist) to do a set of reportage on some old music artist and story tellers that have been carrying a very tradittional set of art style that tends to disappear today.

Roie z, it is a bit out of subject. I am not sure, but I think that you were one of the first to get a gh2 and you bought it from Japan. I am asking because I am waiting so much that I am asking myself if I should not buy one from Japan. i generally import it from bh, but it been 3 month waiting now.
 
Getting a narrative film made can be true pain. I can understand why a lot of people never really get into it.
I am working on this new film and it honestly has been horrible.
I have a scene with 20 extras, difficult locations where I have limited time, 15 second scenes require a whole new location and set up and of course NO CREW besides a friend that might help out a bit. I sometimes don't even enjoy shooting because there are too many things that need to be done and I'm constantly stressed as ****.
So why would I go through all this trouble? Because from the moment I write a script or get an idea I have a rough cut of the film in my head I know it'll be worth it and I have to shoot it the way I see it. This is what drives me through horrible pre-production, 12 hour shoots and all that other stuff.
Simple films are great and fun to do but if your short requires a lot of work you'll have to do it, it's more than worth it.
 
Just an opinion, but I think Sean McLeod's snippet of "Cleaned Out" is very impressive. Nice shots and color correction. I was well impressed with that one.
 
For anyone who's interested, I shot my short, World View, on the GH1(3). Though the hack didn't make much of a difference because it was all green screened, so not too much detail.

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