Barry, when will the test with the 4 cams be conducted?
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This is getting off topic.
gregcotten
Member
I think you have the whole ideology wrong Haakon. I enjoy many of Panasonic's products. I just don't see a need to switch at this current moment (being as a hobbyist w/ prosumer cameras and professional dealing with pro cameras) although declaring that I don't want to switch would be classified as off-topic for this paticular thread. I did say I was sorry for ranting though!
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By the way, I like your avatar - it isn't real... or is it?
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By the way, I like your avatar - it isn't real... or is it?
Greg,
I was just talking about the reference you made to capitalizing the first letter of your name (the part of your post I quoted)... it had nothing to do with your opinions of Panasonic.
I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not, but regardless, the complete disregard for anything remotely resembling proper spelling/grammar on these forums is pretty atrocious so I was just poking fun at it. You can see by my signature that I've already offered some helpful reminders, but I don't think anyone pays attention anyway.
The license plate is real. I get a lot of crap for being "pro-digital" amongst a community of "film"-makers (not these forums, but the people I work with), but one day they'll see the light (and they won't even have to wait around for it to get developed!)... :laugh: :thumbsup:
I was just talking about the reference you made to capitalizing the first letter of your name (the part of your post I quoted)... it had nothing to do with your opinions of Panasonic.
I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not, but regardless, the complete disregard for anything remotely resembling proper spelling/grammar on these forums is pretty atrocious so I was just poking fun at it. You can see by my signature that I've already offered some helpful reminders, but I don't think anyone pays attention anyway.The license plate is real. I get a lot of crap for being "pro-digital" amongst a community of "film"-makers (not these forums, but the people I work with), but one day they'll see the light (and they won't even have to wait around for it to get developed!)... :laugh: :thumbsup:
gregcotten
Member
Haakon said:Greg,
I was just talking about the reference you made to capitalizing the first letter of your name (the part of your post I quoted)... it had nothing to do with your opinions of Panasonic.
The license plate is real. I get a lot of crap for being "pro-digital" amongst a community of "film"-makers (not these forums, but the people I work with), but one day they'll see the light (and they won't even have to wait around for it to get developed!)... :laugh: :thumbsup:
That's way too funny :grin:
Cees Mutsaers
Veteran
Jay : ok a good scientific approach. Can't wait to read the review:thumbsup:
QUOTE=Jay Nemeth]It would be a waste of time to do it any other way. I will have a Leader waveform/vector, all the necessary charts and a really really good monitor. Cameras will also be checked for auto-white accuracy, performance of the knee circuit, true sensitivity and ISO rating, My plan is to leave with quantifiable measurements of the HVX versus the Varicam and F900. The subjective impression is just as important, however. I've found that I rarely go into a movie theater to enjoy test charts.
We will also be doing Barry's double blind shoot out between the competing HDV cameras. We should probably record the HD-SDI out of the Canon and compare it in that mode also. Should be interesting.
Jay[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Jay Nemeth]It would be a waste of time to do it any other way. I will have a Leader waveform/vector, all the necessary charts and a really really good monitor. Cameras will also be checked for auto-white accuracy, performance of the knee circuit, true sensitivity and ISO rating, My plan is to leave with quantifiable measurements of the HVX versus the Varicam and F900. The subjective impression is just as important, however. I've found that I rarely go into a movie theater to enjoy test charts.
We will also be doing Barry's double blind shoot out between the competing HDV cameras. We should probably record the HD-SDI out of the Canon and compare it in that mode also. Should be interesting.
Jay[/QUOTE]
Cees Mutsaers
Veteran
Jay : ok a good scientific approach. Can't wait to read the review:thumbsup:
QUOTE=Jay Nemeth]It would be a waste of time to do it any other way. I will have a Leader waveform/vector, all the necessary charts and a really really good monitor. Cameras will also be checked for auto-white accuracy, performance of the knee circuit, true sensitivity and ISO rating, My plan is to leave with quantifiable measurements of the HVX versus the Varicam and F900. The subjective impression is just as important, however. I've found that I rarely go into a movie theater to enjoy test charts.
We will also be doing Barry's double blind shoot out between the competing HDV cameras. We should probably record the HD-SDI out of the Canon and compare it in that mode also. Should be interesting.
Jay[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Jay Nemeth]It would be a waste of time to do it any other way. I will have a Leader waveform/vector, all the necessary charts and a really really good monitor. Cameras will also be checked for auto-white accuracy, performance of the knee circuit, true sensitivity and ISO rating, My plan is to leave with quantifiable measurements of the HVX versus the Varicam and F900. The subjective impression is just as important, however. I've found that I rarely go into a movie theater to enjoy test charts.
We will also be doing Barry's double blind shoot out between the competing HDV cameras. We should probably record the HD-SDI out of the Canon and compare it in that mode also. Should be interesting.
Jay[/QUOTE]
Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Sure greg. :thumbsup:
gregcotten said:
It looks good, but it looks like a TV show, not like film. It looks like Survivor or something.
I wonder how much resolution you lose by letterboxing 16:9 to the narrow cinemascope ratio as they did. They are basically using the center of the frame only. It must account to some serious resolution loss.
joe 1008
Veteran
Mr. Blonde said:
There seem to be some artifacts from deinterlacing, diagonal edges of moving objects like car windshields have a zig-zag pattern as I could observe in images that suposedly were not manipulated and directly posted out of the camera to the web. (I hope, I expressed me well)
doumm
Active member
4 cam tests
4 cam tests
hi guys, can you also include the dvx100b in the comparo. I'm sort of doing this between serving customers and I have deep inner fear of being burned, but I can't remember you saying your including it in this shootout.
Yes it's not Hd
Yes people probably seen and read heaps about it
But
as many people on this forum have dvx's, and the rest trying to decide whether its' worth going all the way with hvx or to go with dvx to meet their needs, but even to look at the sd side of the new beast. And please don't flame here either as I've seen others flame someone else who posted on this.
People may be looking at using the dvx as a 'B' camera with hvx, and it'd be good to see how they compare side by side etc etc.
4 cam tests
hi guys, can you also include the dvx100b in the comparo. I'm sort of doing this between serving customers and I have deep inner fear of being burned, but I can't remember you saying your including it in this shootout.
Yes it's not Hd
Yes people probably seen and read heaps about it
But
as many people on this forum have dvx's, and the rest trying to decide whether its' worth going all the way with hvx or to go with dvx to meet their needs, but even to look at the sd side of the new beast. And please don't flame here either as I've seen others flame someone else who posted on this.
People may be looking at using the dvx as a 'B' camera with hvx, and it'd be good to see how they compare side by side etc etc.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Guys, I know everyone would want to see every possible thing included (I've had requests for an XL2, a Sony DSR450, and a DVX) but there's already SIX cameras in this comparison. So no -- it's simply not possible. We're shooting tomorrow. I'm sure many others will come up with their own comparisons, but we have to go with what we've got and answer the main questions as best we can.
I appreciate people's concerns, and we're trying to address them; but this is an all-volunteer effort, and we're being offered some generous support from some companies to make it happen, and there's only so much time to get it done in.
I appreciate people's concerns, and we're trying to address them; but this is an all-volunteer effort, and we're being offered some generous support from some companies to make it happen, and there's only so much time to get it done in.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Initial observations should probably trickle in Wednesday; full report would have to wait until I've had a chance to really critically review all the footage...