Audio & FPS

Is RED trying to push the limits? Is a 4k camera design at the suggested price point pushing the limits? yes. After all, some might successfully argue, who really needs that? given human perception tests indicate 3k to be enough with 4k contributing very little.

So what's it going to be, a tool surpassing perceptual limits or not?

I enjoyed reading all the comments and realize it might be too difficult for 24 bit 96khz audio to be implemented. Given that, 4k video seems to be difficult also, so RED might consider just settling for 1080p, after all most all flat screens under 32" are limited 720 res and perception tests have been conducted that demonstrate that it takes a 60" screen to start seeing the full benefit of 1080. Not many people have 60" screens, so maybe RED should see if it can match the HVX. Why go beyond that? Let's be reasonable, we enjoyed 240 res for many years and it didn't hurt anyone. We shouldn't get carried away.

Seriuosly, RED needs to be a tool that provides capture ability that encompasses the full scope of human visual and audio awareness.
 
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after all most all flat screens under 32" are limited 720 res and perception tests have been conducted that demonstrate that it takes a 60" screen to start seeing the full benefit of 1080. Not many people have 60" screens, so maybe RED should see if it can match the HVX. Why go beyond that?
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movie theater?.. imax?
 
filmmaker1977 said:
movie theater?.. imax?
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Hi,

The idea of shooting 4k for HD has always appealed to me as the wide, medium & close up can be extracted from the same take, saving time and therefore money.

Stephen
 
are you joking mate?.. this production idea of the master shot is the most poor damned thing that hollywood invented since edison brought the cinématographe.. where's the perspective?.. depth-of-field and other fancies?.. it seems you think the people don't know what it's possible to do is to take out all the digital features.. instead the higher price spent with all the cinematography staff.. better idea if there's money to save.. take out from the ancient romans..

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take out from the ancient romans and its indy idiomatic meaning:
ancient romans = hollywood guys *like those who are shooting 4k for HD master shot*
 
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I would be a bit disappointed to only have 4 channel 16 bit/48KHz.
Dont want to rephrase all previous arguments, but in short:
24bit makes input level adjusting soooo much easier.
48 KHz is ok while 96 KHz would be quite a sensation.

Whats more important (and I never saw an answer to that):

I hope to have 4 inputs on the camera!
If its via mini xlr´s, adapters or messenger pigeon I dont care, just give me
4 inputs with 48 Volt phantom power.

Not that dumb concept with 2 inputs plus 2 channels for the "professional on-camera mike with stereo capabilities".

As a matter of fact I hope the camera has no onboard mike. Soundproofing the harddrives would be quite an ordeal anyway.

Sorry for reposting that wish.

Cheers,
Jochen
 
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Hi Rob,

thank you for the link. I´m aware of that. And I am quite sure that there are going to be 4 inputs on the camera.
Anyway, my birthday´s on Feb. 21. That reason enough to skip a few places in the line?
;-)
Jochen
 
filmmaker1977 said:
are you joking mate?.. this production idea of the master shot is the most poor damned thing that hollywood invented since edison brought the cinématographe.. where's the perspective?..
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Hi,

I was thinking more for television, run + gun and interviews. You may recall I wrote 4K for HD as in HD Television, sorry if you did not understand.

Stephen
 
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