audio and video dont sync

bus33

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After importing my footage (24p) and the audio for an olympus LS-10 into FCP they dont sync up when i put them in the timeline together. I can get them to start together but i think the video is a little faster than the audio and they start to pull away from each other. I've also tried to sync up audio from a soundboard mix and have had the same results. I'm not sure if its a capturing problem, camera maybe recording fast problem, or both.

thanks in advance for any help
 
After importing my footage (24p) and the audio for an olympus LS-10 into FCP they dont sync up when i put them in the timeline together. I can get them to start together but i think the video is a little faster than the audio and they start to pull away from each other. I've also tried to sync up audio from a soundboard mix and have had the same results. I'm not sure if its a capturing problem, camera maybe recording fast problem, or both.

thanks in advance for any help

Fear not. This is to be expected when using a non-sync, non-TC devics for double system sound. Because the Olympus is not clocked accurately with the camera, there will be a drift.

Take your audio and time-compress it to 99% of it's original duration and you should be fine.
 
thanks for responding so quick. is there any way to sync them so i don't have to adjust anything in FCP? i did the 99% and it helped but it was still a little off. its a gradual split between the vid and sound. it keeps getting more off the further along it goes.
 
thanks for responding so quick. is there any way to sync them so i don't have to adjust anything in FCP? i did the 99% and it helped but it was still a little off. its a gradual split between the vid and sound. it keeps getting more off the further along it goes.

You should use a clapper to mark the beginning of the shot. Then slide the audio to match the clapper sync frame. There is a way to 'edit' audio at the sub frame level, but since I've not needed to do that, I've forgotten, but I think when you have the audio clip in the preview window, you can get down to 100ths of a second resolution. I'm not in a possition to bring up FC (in my case Express) to give specific details.

If you audio is longer than a minute or two, you may have to readjust further down the time line.

Did you record at 48k samples/second ? or some other speed.
 
A little off over what kind of time period? 2 minutes? 20 minutes?
Also, check all your device settings to see if there is a sample rate or frame rate difference.
Is the LS-10 recording at 48K or 44.1K?
Are your import settings exactly correct for what you shot at?
Is the LS-10 audio faster or slower than the video audio?

~DPS
 
It's over a long period. Its a wedding ceremony. the first guy told me to put it at 99% but it still got a little off. After playing around with the speed it was actually 99.9% not just 99% that worked. The Ls-10 was faster so i lowered the speed of the video to finally sync up. the ls-10 was recording at 44.1. if it was at 48 would it have recorded at a different speed?
 
It's over a long period. Its a wedding ceremony. the first guy told me to put it at 99% but it still got a little off. After playing around with the speed it was actually 99.9% not just 99% that worked.

99% is a starting point. The drift will start to be noticeable within a few minutes of constant play. Most recorders (cameras, handheld recorders, etc.) don't record at the exact, nominal sample rate. There's an ever-so-slight variation and two independent devices won't have the same exact value.

The Ls-10 was faster so i lowered the speed of the video to finally sync up.

You really need adjust the audio speed rather than the video speed. You won't hear artifacting in the audio with a speed adjustment that minor, but video speed adjustments will show up much sooner.

the ls-10 was recording at 44.1. if it was at 48 would it have recorded at a different speed?

DV records at 48k, so your LS-10 should be set to record at 48k. Period. But even if you had recorded at 48k, there'd still be a drift just because they aren't clocked together. Generally, I find that the handheld recorders run slightly slower than DV.

You need to convert your audio to 48k before you start editing with it.
 
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