Are you guys still waiting on GH1 keeping your eye on the 7D?

I'll bet you guys can sell your gh1 in 3-4 months when the 7d's are around for $1,000-$1,200ish. It'll cost you $100 a month in depreciation. Not a bad play to shoot now!
 
Boz said:
Same here... and I have to make my decision by the weekend since I'll have to return my GH1 by then. Ugh!
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The two cams are essentially the same with minor differences here and there.
I don't think one will make the other depreciate. GH1 will take a wider variety of lenses tho and you won't be able to do timelapse on the 7D with those file size limits.
 
Yep I think it is settled for me, I can't wait until December. I will get the GH1 and maybe sell in a year or so and get the 7d after it depreciates some. I don't need to be on the cutting edge.
 
THe file size limit is fine by me especially if you are doing narrative work.
The only time I ever need to record an hour+ is on an ENG style gig and in that case I wouldn't want a vDSLR
 
I have shot thousands of clips on my hvx200, maybe 50 are over 12 minutes. If it's the only video camera you'll have and you need long form recording then it's not the cam for you. My hvx has a max recording time of 8 min with a 8 gig card in 1080. I know I'll have a pocket full of CF cards with the 7D.
 
I'll still go for GH1. My thoughts:

1) Sensor. Crop x1,6 vs. x2. 25% of additional size may give a better low-light performance, but it won't be a big step ahead. I'm satisfied with GH1's high ISO performance. But GH1 seems to have faster sensor in terms of rolling shutter effect, besides Canon applied in 720p same downscale/linedrop method as in 500D leading to significant aliasing artifacts. And recording limits are still present.

2) Lenses. Of course, Canon's arsenal is larger in times, both for new and used optics. But it absolutely lacks one thing - kit zoom with AF ability. Yeah, I know, true cinematographers shoot on primes with follow focus, but for "man-and-a-half" crew AF would save lot of time and brain cells. The main advantage of Canon is in more affordable wide-end lenses. Well, I rarely need more then 28 mm wide eq., so I can live with this.

3) Audio. Both are without built-in leveling and monitoring, both have ext. mic input. GH1 built-in mic looks better.

4) Codec. We know that GH1 codec is weak. But is 7D's codec much stronger? As for me - nope. It doesn't fall apart on high speed pans but it gets too soapy for my sense. It gets soapy even on static detail-rich scenes (check imaging-resource.com samples of 7D). I mean, this border of quality loss is very close for both GH1 and 7D, maybe closer on GH1, but still very reachable, and you have to remember about it every time you shoot. I've checked PAL footage from GH1 once again and decided that it's acceptable.

5) Ergonomics. GH1 looks more suitable for video shooting with it's swivel LCD and always-working EVF.
 
J Davis said:
THe file size limit is fine by me especially if you are doing narrative work.
The only time I ever need to record an hour+ is on an ENG style gig and in that case I wouldn't want a vDSLR
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its not even an hour........ 7D is limited to 12 mins of continuous recording.

So if you are on an assignment where you have to record more than that....you'll either have to tell them to stop after 11 minutes or tell them to wait so that you can run out and get a GH1 :grin:
 
More than likely you'll have an audio recorder running like the zoom h4n so you can cut away while you drop a new cf card in the cam and roll video for another 12 min. I ordered two 7D's so I really don't have to worry about it.
 
Barry_Green said:
Depends on if you need a camera for the next several months. Pre-orders are being told they won't get their 7Ds until December. If you need a camera, keep it, let the 7D get shaken down and find out what the real deal is, then decide if you want to trade it in.

If you don't need a camera for the next several months, return the GH1. But you probably won't get a 7D for a long time.
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Great advice. I've been waiting a very long time to upgrade, and I really don't want to wait until December to get a new camera. Especially since over those months I'll still be paying for it (exchanging GH1 for store credit towards 7D). While I wait, I can shoot and improve my skills while the 7D is released and shaken down. Plus, once it's out for a while the costs will start to drop.... Of course by then we'll be looking at a GH2. ;-) Still, Panasonic would certainly make all of our lives easier with a damn codec patch!
 
What may happen is Pana may start selling 'body only' GH1's to compete.
Especially as they missed the boat on so many sales
 
I bought the GH1 last week it's fantastic; the picture quality easily rivals any Sony hd cam. As for the Canon 7d, I have seen footage from the camera as I worked on the research for it and it is less than impressive. They have basically taken the 500d video, added a mic jack and at the last minute added the frame rates to keep up with the times - very shoddy. Another plus for the GH1 is it's size, much smaller beast and therefore I will use it more often, who wants to be carrying round a heffer these days? Not I, Canon, Nikon you've been great - but see you laters.
 
I have a 5D M2 as my primary and GH1 as my B cam. I ordered a 7D & expect I'll get it the first week they release them. I got my 5D in last week of Nov last year and I was late ordering the GH1. but still got it early July.

I don't really need 3 cameras, but not willing to sell the GH1 just yet. I use it at 720p most of the time and uprez it to work with the 5D m2. I like the HD imagery better off the 5D and for stills, they are night and day difference. Canon is excellent and the GH1 is more like my wife's point and shoot.

I'm hoping the HDMI is live on the 7D but I don't hold out hopes as I'm convinced that Canon is holding back features ON PURPOSE. The fixed LCD and no audio control are almost ridiculous missing features.

That being said, I want one camera that can shoot extended times and will keep the GH1 for that if I can't get more than 10-14 minutes on the two cameras. I'm selling off all my HD video cameras (with reservations) knowing that action shots are going to be less than perfect, but what the heck, one only needs a couple cameras.

If the imagery is real sweet on the 7D, but still has the 10-14 minute time limit, I will have a dilemma. Maybe I'll become a 3 camera guy, but hopefully not.

I'm holding off buying more canon lens as I'm interested to see what Nikon or someone else will do. We are getting to the point where the imagery is going to be at a point where they will all be great and features will win the race. Then my 15 year loyalty to Canon will be ended.

I have no direct knowledge, but my gut is screaming that Canon is intentionally leaving off features.
 
just curious what are your backgrounds? How do I become a professional videographer and what are my options besides weddings! hehe and can I raise a family w/ the income.
 
Actually just preorded the 7d. talked to my wife about and and really played up the taking of great photos of our son. I bought her a couple of new dresses and she is happy. :)
 
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