Are you guys still waiting on GH1 keeping your eye on the 7D?
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SonicStates
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Hahaha just saw this...and that's why I live in Japan (from Adelaide too).
FWIW and forgive the platitude, but there is always going to be some new technical piece of wizardry that MUST be had arriving at some point near in the future (*cough* unless it's made by Pana or Canon, then "near" is a relative term). By the time the 7D is here something else will be on the horizon which we ALL (myself included) will just have to have. I get the bug also...you know the one...dreaming of the moment when you unwrap the parcel, heart rate increasing, palms becoming sweaty, gently caressing the...anyway maybe that's another dream.
A suggestion which many have said already deserves a revisit. SHOOT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE NOW!!!! especially in this case. We don't even know how the 7D really performs...when delivery will actually take place (I'm a bit better off on that front because of my location...maybe) or what problems will be present...and there WILL/IS be problems/limitations. Barry's point, as per usual, about letting it (7D) get shaken down is spot on. I can already hear the approaching complaints of (some) new 7D owners...equipment 'upgrades'; truly a vicious cycle!
In the meantime, my wide angle just arrived.....sweaty palms.... I'm off to enjoy the GH-1
Fluke
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You escaped! You are one of the lucky ones... Heh.
Yeah. I'm terrible at this. I do it with cameras, I do it with guitars, I do it with recording equipment, I do it with computers... heck, I'd probably do it with my cereal if I religiously read up on the cutting edge of cereal design.
I've decided that I'm not even going to entertain the thought of a 7D. Especailly after the body only price is looking like it's going to be $3,000 here. Though, I am a little pissed to find that the GH1 price has dropped $800 since I picked mine up last month... Grr.
I'm just going to make do with the decision I made, afterall it's not any less of a camera than it was last week. And, if buying a GH1 is even close to the worst decision I make in the next 12 months, then I think I'm in for a remarkable year, indeed!
SonicStates
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I salute you!
slinks
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personally i have a feeling the 7d is a rushed cam and anyways it wouldn't fit my needs.
especially if u do events or plan to shoot anything long . 12 min just will not cut it. 7d definitely has its pluses but it just doesn't cut it for me. If the 7d was full frame and had those modes, I would consider it a lot more especially since I would like to get into more full frame photography., but alas it is not.
especially if u do events or plan to shoot anything long . 12 min just will not cut it. 7d definitely has its pluses but it just doesn't cut it for me. If the 7d was full frame and had those modes, I would consider it a lot more especially since I would like to get into more full frame photography., but alas it is not.
I'll be content learning with the gh1, build up my experience and lens collection until they properly integrate video into a full frame. this was my justification to sway me from buying a 5dmk2...lol In my opinion the 7d isn't much of an upgrade from the gh1 for me to consider at the moment. Each to their own really.
TrueIndigo
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As I said in another thread, I'm happy to make this summer my "GH1 summer", to use it, learn from it, and move on. The days of cameras for keeps went out a long time ago (technology brings us the benefits, but the marketing hype takes away our satisfaction with last years products). It would be nice to settle down for a few years with a solid camera, but the march of the machines is unstopable. It's a merry go round I can't get off of (following the latest developments), and I wish I spent as much time perfecting my scripts...
Richard J. Johnson
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Actually just preorded the 7d. talked to my wife about and and really played up the taking of great photos of our son. I bought her a couple of new dresses and she is happy.
That's funny, I did the same thing and told her we could split the cost. But I started thinking. That means she now would need to take the cam to picnics, work functions, parties and every other event she goes to. damn that. I'll wait.
rogar-Smoke(DBG):agreed
agreed
I have no regrets about the GH1 I ordered and received this week. It is such a pleasure to use. I am blown away by the image of this little camera and the micro four thirds system. I had no trouble importing AVCHD footage into Final Cut. It is gorgeous and clean, and what a joy to have DOF at my fingertips (without a contraption attached to my HD video cameras). The dedicated video camera industry is in big trouble! And I've been a part of it for 25 years. I knew the 7D was coming but thought it had to be a dumbed down version of the 5D for the price: same workflow, same issues, and only 12 minutes record time. I don't see the point of it's rushed release just yet. Except for the price point. I'm happy to enjoy this GH1 and let the dust settle on the next, next, next greatest DSLR. Sony is going to throw their hats into the ring any minute now...and Nikon's follow up to the D300s is in the offing too. Game ON--and it will be good for them to compete for our business! We win!
agreed
I have no regrets about the GH1 I ordered and received this week. It is such a pleasure to use. I am blown away by the image of this little camera and the micro four thirds system. I had no trouble importing AVCHD footage into Final Cut. It is gorgeous and clean, and what a joy to have DOF at my fingertips (without a contraption attached to my HD video cameras). The dedicated video camera industry is in big trouble! And I've been a part of it for 25 years. I knew the 7D was coming but thought it had to be a dumbed down version of the 5D for the price: same workflow, same issues, and only 12 minutes record time. I don't see the point of it's rushed release just yet. Except for the price point. I'm happy to enjoy this GH1 and let the dust settle on the next, next, next greatest DSLR. Sony is going to throw their hats into the ring any minute now...and Nikon's follow up to the D300s is in the offing too. Game ON--and it will be good for them to compete for our business! We win!
Thing is, after using the GH1, everything else feels big and clumsy! this is the issue with nikon/canon/sony/pentax the form factor is too big! the GH1 is a joy to use, hand-held or on a support, it feels just big enough, not too tiny and not too large. Also the af, for alot of people the stock lens outdoor is a dream, I cant imagine needing anything else, except for getting up close and that beutiful 20 f1.7. This is the point with the GH1 system, small compact, minimal lenses required, af available, and that amazing evf with live histogram. If they can fix that bitrate to constant and add a more sophisticated audio control window, well the new lenses will aid low light and close-up, what mreo do you need? The 7d is big/ and it will not offer useable af with any lense, for me this is a major issue, irrrespective of the improved iq, if I cant get it in focus,(in bright light with an lcd< hmm), I dont think so. 7d, keep it, big clunky and jello-vison.
Viva la Panasonic, GH1.
Viva la Panasonic, GH1.
Tim Joy
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I disagree that everything else is too big. The GH1 is too small. Maybe I have big hands, but I'm ALWAYS hitting buttons accidentally on the GH1, and the way I have to hold it to avoid doing so will cramp my hand up like crazy after 30 minutes. I loved the grip on the D90 and will be happy to have something like it on the 7D.
Although, handheld video is useless without a shoulder mount or stabilizer, IMO, so I don't hold the camera much anymore anyway.
Although, handheld video is useless without a shoulder mount or stabilizer, IMO, so I don't hold the camera much anymore anyway.
PappasArts
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I found it small too; however It's nice to start out that way and if you need more mass around the GH1 body, you build it up. So I modified my GH1 to have a bigger grip the way I like it.
However it's nice to have the option that if you need to get the GH1 in a very tight spot, it naturally has a small foot print.
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Park Edwards
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I found it small too; however It's nice to start out that way and if you need more mass around the GH1 body, you build it up. So I modified my GH1 to have a bigger grip the way I like it.
However it's nice to have the option that if you need to get the GH1 in a very tight spot, it naturally has a small foot print.
Michael Pappas
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can you show how you attach the eye piece?
What battery grip are you using and how did you get it to work?
On the mud issue, I recently shot a music video in a woodland (720), using only available light and a lot of the shooting was handheld, including running with the camera and whip pans. I've only managed to find 2 shots with mud artifacts, but only in the most extreme camera movements, I had to step through frame by frame to actually find it.
As others have said over and over again, if you use good shooting practice and set up the camera correctly, this is a very small issue that's been blown out of all proportion. This camera comes at such a good price point which means that a lot of inexperienced users are shooting with it ( probably the reason the mud issue got so much coverage ) so the fact that this camera forces these users to learn good basic techniques could be seen as a positive.