Was just going to post, you get the extra light which isn't a bad thing. I also encourage people to experiment with the 1/25 and 1/30 shutter. For static shots without a lot of motion, 1/25 isn't the most terrible though, 1/30 could be usable as well, if done sparsely.
GH2 Are all these new hacks and patches creating a placebo effect?
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Was just going to post, you get the extra light which isn't a bad thing. I also encourage people to experiment with the 1/25 and 1/30 shutter. For static shots without a lot of motion, 1/25 isn't the most terrible though, 1/30 could be usable as well, if done sparsely.
PaPa
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I'm definitely going to give that a try and compare them to see what I prefer.
As per cloud I too find my current hack a little excessive. I wonder, are there any hacks that are under 100Mbps with a gop of 1 or is that unstable?
At the end if the day, I was happy with the drastic change I saw between the sstock codec and the 65 Mbps patch I tried but that had a gop of 3. It might be me being convinced by my readings that a gop of 1 gives you the best over all filmic feel, but I dont know if I can notice a difference between 1 and 3 gop.
At the end of the day, I just want a smooth and reliable 1080 at 24 and 720 at 60p that will look great and be color grade friendly that has a low gop of 1 or 3 that gives me more than one gig per minute.
Or maybe I should keep the quantum v2 that I have now and try shooting more on the lower bitrate setting?
As per cloud I too find my current hack a little excessive. I wonder, are there any hacks that are under 100Mbps with a gop of 1 or is that unstable?
At the end if the day, I was happy with the drastic change I saw between the sstock codec and the 65 Mbps patch I tried but that had a gop of 3. It might be me being convinced by my readings that a gop of 1 gives you the best over all filmic feel, but I dont know if I can notice a difference between 1 and 3 gop.
At the end of the day, I just want a smooth and reliable 1080 at 24 and 720 at 60p that will look great and be color grade friendly that has a low gop of 1 or 3 that gives me more than one gig per minute.
Or maybe I should keep the quantum v2 that I have now and try shooting more on the lower bitrate setting?
Aquamotion V2 is GOP 1 I believe, and it's right around 100mbps.
I have a Sandisk Extreme 30mb/s 32gb card.
Spanned fine at 1080p 24p. The 1080 30p (80%) mode crapped out once it hit the span limit. It randomly crapped out one time, when I was shooting 720 60p w/ autofocus on, at 3200 iso, on the 14-42mm lens.
regular 1080 24p has been flawless, though.
PaPa
Major Contributor
Video Bitrate 24H=154000000
Video Bitrate 24L=64000000
Video Bitrate FSH/SH=96000000
Video Bitrate FH/H=48000000
Auto Quantizer for 1080 modes=4 - All to details
Auto Quantizer for 720 modes=3 - Most to details
720p50 GOP Size=1
720p60 GOP Size=3
1080i50 and 1080p24 GOP Size=1
1080i60 GOP Size=1
There we go, i already have what i was looking for, and installed, just have to shoot at L setting when i want more space and i get the same quality as i did with the original KAE patch i installed at 65Mbps.
Video Bitrate 24L=64000000
Video Bitrate FSH/SH=96000000
Video Bitrate FH/H=48000000
Auto Quantizer for 1080 modes=4 - All to details
Auto Quantizer for 720 modes=3 - Most to details
720p50 GOP Size=1
720p60 GOP Size=3
1080i50 and 1080p24 GOP Size=1
1080i60 GOP Size=1
There we go, i already have what i was looking for, and installed, just have to shoot at L setting when i want more space and i get the same quality as i did with the original KAE patch i installed at 65Mbps.
Ryan Farnes
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Let me break out my Panasonic FX-A 3000-AA5 fan which has interval RPM rates from 2 to 7500 at increments of 2. That way I can set it to a scientifically calibrated constant rate of 60 for jubilance inducing 1/40th to 1/50th shutter speed comparison to satiate the wisest among us!
Hehe.
I might try testing with a metronome in the future. Maybe with ETC it could get some fast and yet reliable motion.
PaPa
Major Contributor
I gotta say, all this talk about intra, P frames, B frames, I frames. I get cmpletely lost. I don't know what the 64MBps is at.
Does intra vs other have to do with the GOP?? Is 1 GOP meaning that they are all individual frames making them intra? IF you have 3 GOP does that mean it's not intra? hrm..
+1 I'd love to see a patch that would span on my 16GB Sandisk 30MB cards, had intra, and GOP1, and give me a decent run time.
A lot of my work this year is going to be weddings and corporate documentaries. I can handle using a 100MB+ patch for commercial shoots, but I need something for those 15-30minute interviews, and hour plus wedding ceremonies.
Kholi, still waiting on that workflow post! Really enjoying your blog posts thus far.
If you are shooting static interview shots and weddings, what do you need GOP = 1 for?
It's'a comin', my friend! GOnna have a lot of downtime soon... blerg on Holidays. Haha.
I don't necessarily know if I do, hence my +1 to PaPa's post. I suppose my comment for wanting it was a bit to early.