Applying effects to the entire footage instead of just a frame?

rawfa

rawfa

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Hi,

I´ve just started testing CCing videos on Photoshop and I have what I assume to be a basic doubt. When I apply an effect to the video instead of applying the effect to the entire footage (like it would do on Premiere) it only applies to 1 frame. How can I make it apply it to the entire footage? I thought that by converting it to a smart object it would work but when I import the PSD file to Premiere I can still only see one frame.

thanks in advance

Rafa
 
I would really prefer if I could use Photoshop instead. As 99,9% of what I do are stills a have a very specific work flow that I truly enjoy.
Besides I´m pretty sure I´m almost there. I´m now almost 100% that converting the clips to smart objects is the way to go. I just need to understand why I can scroll through the clip on photoshop but when I import the PSD file I can only see one frame.

Another solution would be to export a video file from photoshop using a lossless codec but I´m only able to select Black Magic MOV files, when I´d like to use mp4 or avi.
 
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When you import a .psd into Premiere, you should get a dialog box in Premiere asking if you want to "merge all layers" , "individual layers" , etc. Selecting "merge all layers" should get you the results you want. I'm not at a machine with Premiere right now, but there may also be a preference that will allow you to always do that.

BTW - your Photoshop work does not have to be a smart objects.


Jim
 
Ahh... I've heard of doing the color through photoshop. But frankly, thats kinda what After Effects is for.
Its like photoshop for video.
Also, what exactly are you trying to do with your video? I mean, the degree of changing your original footage?
Simple coloring? Frame editing? Special effects? Etc....
 
I have several filters that do not exist for After FX or Premiere (Alien Skin for example).
 
Well, yes.. but if your talking about flares, light leaks, or photo filters... there are ton of available effects you can do in AE, that can closely mimic your effects in Photoshop. But of course, we'd need more information. Maybe post a clip of the effect you want?
Or... yes, you can figure out how to use photoshop. I'm a little curious myself of the workflow and results.
 
I use layers with the shadows & highlights tool and Alien Skin. I know premiere has shadows & highlights but it comes out with too much grain, plus Alien Skin doesn´t exist for video.
 
"I´ve tried all layers options while importing the PSD to premiere but it´s a no go."

Rawfa: To be clear, I am using Adobe Creative Suite CS4, so that's Photoshop CS4 and Premiere Pro CS4 (and I know that it also works in CS5.5.) Importing video edited in Photoshop has worked for me since at least the earliest version of CS. Are you maybe using Photoshop or Premiere Elements?

How are you bringing the Photoshop file into Premiere - "Import File" or just dragging/dropping. or are you Opening a Photoshop file in Premiere?

For daihard: I work a lot with After Effects, but there are plenty of really good reasons to use Photoshop for tweaking video. Many of the very precise tools and techniques developed over the years by photogs can be applied to video much more easily in Photoshop than in AE. For instance, I like to use Photoshop's targeted adjustment tool with curves for color correction - AE's curves do not have a TAT. You'd think Adobe could easily provide that in AE, but that is apparently not the case. Also, I hate to have to buy the same (or similar) plug-ins for AE after I've already paid for the same filter in Photoshop. (Most Photoshop filters used to also work in AE, but software vendors have developed ways to now prevent that.)

Jim
 
Ye, dont get me wrong. I worked as a fashion retoucher for a while, so i know the power of Photoshop for imaging.
And im sure there are tons of ways to import batch import, frame by frame video into photoshop and apply your effects.
However, i push After Effects because its much more powerful then Premier and closer to Photoshop...but for video. Basically, if time - money is the end result. Then After Effects is the solution. So maybe you should have a closer look at what is (features and plug'ins) available in AE.
But yes, you loose some of those great plug'ins and effects that you can find in Photoshop.
 
You can, of course, always export the video you edited in PS and then import that into PPro. I sometimes export as an image sequence (TIF) and then bring that sequence into PPro or AE.

Let me clarify a few things I thought I knew when I was posting earlier. When I actually sat in front of a pc with CS4, I learned a few things about what I thought I was remembering.

If I simply add an adjustment layer (ie curves or exposure) to video in PS, save that as a .psd and import it into PPro, everything seems to work fine. (This is what I usually do if I am working with Photoshop and Premiere.) If, in PS, I add a filter of some sort to the video, the video MUST be a smart object, otherwise the filter will only apply to whatever frame I was on when I added the filter. This is contrary to what I mentioned in my first response.

Even if the filter is added to a smart object and the file saved as .psd, it will appear into PPro as a single image. To bring a video edited in PS into Premeire, you must export it (as video or image seq) then import that into Premiere.

Sorry for any confusion I might have caused.


Jim
 
Those were my conclusions so far. Adjustment layers will show up when you import the PSD to Premiere, filters won´t even if you turn the layer on Photoshop into a smart object.

Does anyone know if Photoshop the Cineform codec? I think that if I´m going to be exporting videos back an forth it might as well be in a lossless codec that also allows for smooth editing.
 
Just export from PS as an image sequence. it's a pretty standard way to move effects shots around.... and your NLE, After Effects, etc should all be able to import it.
 
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