Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !

Qualcomm is partnering with Microsoft to match Apple Silicon on ARM with Windows on ARM. They may have been caught sleeping on the job by Apple but should release the OS+chip combo in Q1. That's going to be a mega battle, where the global heavyweights will be ganging up on Apple from all sides.
 
Samuel Dilworth said:
Apple bought Intel’s cellular modem business last year for something like a billion dollars. Is Intel starting again from scratch? That would be a peculiar about-turn.
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I think that sale was a response to Intel screwing itself over because too much of its fab capacity was tied up in modems.

Apple’s goal as I understand it is to get rid of Qualcomm modems in its phones as soon as it can, likely making its own ‘M1 of 5G modems’ before very long. I wouldn’t want to be a Qualcomm shareholder when that happens.
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That looks like it's happening in 2021.
 
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Excerpt from email I got from digital anarchy regarding plugins:

We’ve got one of the Minis and overall it’s a decent machine, especially vs. the previous Mini. However, it’s a mixed bag when compared to other machines with dedicated GPUs. At least when running native apps like FCP. If you’re running graphics apps in emulation (Adobe, etc), the performance is not great.

So for a production machine, I don’t know if I’d recommend it until more apps are native. That’s probably not too far off, but it may be a bit. While Apple saying ‘apps can be recompiled in two hours!’ may not be entirely untrue… going from that one day or so ‘recompile’ to a stable build that can be used in a professional environment requires a lot of work.
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Yes, as in that (terribly biased) test vs. built-out machines, the key will be software compatibility and likely for more than two years than Apple claims. So, Apple-on-Apple will work really well. Everything else will take time.

And Microsoft-on-ARM is likely to have similar problems. As will whatever Google throws at it.
 
DLD said:
Yes, as in that (terribly biased) test vs. built-out machines, the key will be software compatibility and likely for more than two years than Apple claims. So, Apple-on-Apple will work really well. Everything else will take time.

And Microsoft-on-ARM is likely to have similar problems. As will whatever Google throws at it.
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I want to see some Resolve numbers. Earlier in the thread someone (was it you DLD?) said that Resolve was already optimized
for M1. I'd love to see side render tests with FCP X versus optimized Resolve. I don't care about Premiere or AVID as I don't use either
much anymore but Resolve and FCP X are my primary tools.
 
I got an email from B&H a couple days ago letting me know after almost a month wait that it's finally.... still back ordered!

I saw a yt video showing good Resolve numbers. Can't remember what video it was.
 
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Here's a key in Armando's video - "technically, FCP supports Canon Raw (I assume Canon Raw Light since he's talking about C200 - DLD) but only via a plug-in". And that's Apple in a nutshell. It doesn't always play nice with those it considers its rivals. C200 and CRL have been out for three years already. They should be integrated seamlessly. Yet they are not.

So, why should it change going forward? Why should it change when the integration is getting more difficult? It's definitely a caveat emptor situation.
 
DLD said:
Here's a key in Armando's video - "technically, FCP supports Canon Raw (I assume Canon Raw Light since he's talking about C200 - DLD) but only via a plug-in". And that's Apple in a nutshell. It doesn't always play nice with those it considers its rivals. C200 and CRL have been out for three years already. They should be integrated seamlessly. Yet they are not.

So, why should it change going forward? Why should it change when the integration is getting more difficult? It's definitely a caveat emptor situation.
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Canon CRL support has always been a plugin for Final Cut Pro. Once that plugin is installed, using CRL in Final Cut Pro is seamless. It imports, plays back, and edits just like any other supported footage type.
 
Peter C. said:
Here's a list of the current issues with the M1 which are software based that will likely be fixed at some point. I'd rank them as 1. lower quality encoding, 2. blue tooth and 3. wifi.
https://youtu.be/jhYg4uzLpn0
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Interesting. I just watched that earlier today. Having an M1 MacBook Pro, I can say that I've experienced no WiFi drop outs at all... but I have a pretty high end WiFi setup at home that blankets the house with a pretty solid signal everywhere, so I'd wonder if that one's an issue that shows up when you're at the edge. Could also be a WiFi 6 thing... I'm not running WiFi 6 yet.

Bluetooth... other than my AirPod Pros, I haven't actually hooked up any Bluetooth devices to this thing... the AirPods work fine though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The encoding quality I have not seen. The stuff that comes out of Final Cut on this machine looks identical to the stuff that comes out of my iMac Pro. Since I was curious, I kicked out a couple of encodes from each machine and compared them. Even pixel-peeping, they looked the same to me.

I have to say, after owning one of these machines for a few weeks... there's very little downside when it comes to content creation. Even Premiere runs well on this thing... and Resolve and Final Cut are both awesome. If you're a software developer, I'd wait... some of the "closer to the metal" dev software is still not supported well... but for what I use a laptop for (basically light editing and a lot of culling and rough cutting on top of a lot of web surfing, writing, etc.)... these machines rock. I'm not sure I want to go back to a laptop I have to charge once a day.
 
jbregar said:
Interesting. I just watched that earlier today. Having an M1 MacBook Pro, I can say that I've experienced no WiFi drop outs at all... but I have a pretty high end WiFi setup at home that blankets the house with a pretty solid signal everywhere, so I'd wonder if that one's an issue that shows up when you're at the edge. Could also be a WiFi 6 thing... I'm not running WiFi 6 yet.

Bluetooth... other than my AirPod Pros, I haven't actually hooked up any Bluetooth devices to this thing... the AirPods work fine though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The encoding quality I have not seen. The stuff that comes out of Final Cut on this machine looks identical to the stuff that comes out of my iMac Pro. Since I was curious, I kicked out a couple of encodes from each machine and compared them. Even pixel-peeping, they looked the same to me.

I have to say, after owning one of these machines for a few weeks... there's very little downside when it comes to content creation. Even Premiere runs well on this thing... and Resolve and Final Cut are both awesome. If you're a software developer, I'd wait... some of the "closer to the metal" dev software is still not supported well... but for what I use a laptop for (basically light editing and a lot of culling and rough cutting on top of a lot of web surfing, writing, etc.)... these machines rock. I'm not sure I want to go back to a laptop I have to charge once a day.
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That's a relief to hear. The only thing that I use on my mac that's bluetooth that I'd be concerned about is my wireless mouse. So I'm guessing this must be more about the drivers of particular devices.
 
DLD said:
Here's a key in Armando's video - "technically, FCP supports Canon Raw (I assume Canon Raw Light since he's talking about C200 - DLD) but only via a plug-in". And that's Apple in a nutshell. It doesn't always play nice with those it considers its rivals. C200 and CRL have been out for three years already. They should be integrated seamlessly. Yet they are not.

So, why should it change going forward? Why should it change when the integration is getting more difficult? It's definitely a caveat emptor situation.
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Everyone's footage that's not a major standard - especially RAW - requires a plugin.

That's the code for FCP X that any company that would like to use their software has to compile since Apple's not going to waste their resources and do the work for them.

Once you download it and install it, FCP X treats the footage like its own ProRes.
 
For doing nothing but transferring footage in the field as fast as possible, would the m1 air be just as fast as the m1 13”?
 
DLD said:
I assume Canon Raw Light since he's talking about C200...that's Apple in a nutshell... It doesn't always play nice with those it considers its rivals. C200 and CRL have been out for three years already. They should be integrated seamlessly....
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If you mean Canon, how are they a rival with Apple? Canon's entire imaging systems division (sensors, DSLRs, mirrorless cameras, professional cameras, scanners, printers, etc) produces less revenue than Apple Watches. Re whether a camera manufacturer's raw codecs are integrated in FCP, that is up to the plugin or workflow package written by the camera mfg. E.g, RED has no problem producing a Metal-optimized plugin that integrates their codec with FCP.

I think Avid also requires similar plugins from RED and Canon to work with Redcode RAW and Canon Cinema RAW Lite.
 
rob norton said:
For doing nothing but transferring footage in the field as fast as possible, would the m1 air be just as fast as the m1 13”?
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I was told by a certified service technician that the air and the mbp are technically the same except the fan and the slightly brighter display (400 vs 500nits). The difference will be noticeable when it's getting hot. The Pro kicks in the fan and the Air gets throttled. As it may get hot by the environment conditions and the computing stress both you cannot exactly define when the Air gets throttled. At a price difference of 200$ and 100g / 3.53oz I wouldn't even waste a thought at the Air
 
jbregar said:
Having an M1 MacBook Pro, I can say that I've experienced no WiFi drop outs at all...

The encoding quality I have not seen. The stuff that comes out of Final Cut on this machine looks identical to the stuff that comes out of my iMac Pro.
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We have had a M1 MBP 13" 16GB RAM since Wednesday, and I have been testing it extensively. We have not experienced any WiFI drop outs at all, nor have any of the blue tooth devices we use been adversely affected.

Output with various encodes appears identical to our MacBook Pro 16" 2019.

We have LumaFusion, a popular iPad video editing app, running on our iPad Pro 12.9". I was able to download it to the M1 MacBook Pro, and installed it. It runs even faster on the M1 MBP. Any Sony A7siii frame rates and codecs I throw at it work without rendering.

An iPad app running on the M1 MacBook Pro is pretty interesting, and of course, suggests that FCP is definitely coming to the iPad.
 
I thought you were going to recommend the air, because these are like disposable computers that you use for a couple of years then trade in or sell. So why spend more for a small improvement especially if he wants to use it to transfer files.
 
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