Apple built Final Cut Pro 8 (64bit), then scrapped it???

Pretty well debunked:

"Richard Harrington commented on this story

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My comment is taken out of context.
I do not have explicit knowledge of FCP8. Wasn't saying I did. Wasn't implying I did.

Just repeating rumors I had heard multiple times. I had been told many times that there were efforts to bring 64 bit to the type of interface used in FCP7.

I am not breaking any news here...
Comment is misunderstood and taken out of context.

All I was trying to say to folks is move on from FCP 7. Apple has clearly decided to go in a new direction. People need to accept this and move on.

Don't care which app you choose. For me it is both FCPX and Premiere Pro.

See Phillips excellent blog post on timeline of events.

This is not news, it is a misunderstood 10 second comment in a 90 minute talk."
 
FInal Cut X hurts my soul. (I am not saying it is not a good program, it just is not for me as FC7 was.) I still do not know what direction I am going to head in. I use Avid at work and I have come to like it, however it is expensive. I hate the iMovie like interface the FCP X provides, and you can keep your damn Magnets. I have never really liked Premeire, but I am willing to give it another shot. And the Beta version of Lightworks (Mac) is being released on the Mac next month.

I will see which way I will be headed in the future.
 
Whats funny is Adobe did this exact thing years ago. I started out using Premiere and adobe abandoned it only to come back several years later. i still have my hopes for FCP.

And if you have FCP you can transition to Avid for $1499 if you have a valid FCp serial number, thats what I did. I'll stick with a company who's focus is their main reason for existing. Avid weathered the FCP storm and they'll be around in the future.
 
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I still don't get why everyone got so freaked out by FCPX. When Panasonic released the HVX200 did all the DVX100 cameras stop working? FCPX has been out for months & I'm still using FCP7 perfectly fine. There will be a point where I need to upgrade, but until then I'm fine with FCP7.

I think Apple did a horrible job releasing FCPX. Avid & Adobe did a great job fueling the fires of panic, terror & apocalypse & it looks like they got a bunch of people to jump ship & switch to their products. It is a competitive business market of people trying to make money.

The one thing that I like about FCPX is that it has gotten me to re-think about NLE systems. Looking back, a lot of my learning a non-linear system (Avid, FCP, DPS Velocity) was based off of knowing how to edit tape-to-tape. Tape is dead, why are our NLE systems still built on the back of linear editing?

I have hope that maybe FCP 10.2 or FCP 11 will really be a great non-linear editor that is a great step up in evolution. As for the article in the OP, wishing for a FCP8 64bit means that people haven't let go. Apple has skipped FCP 8 & 9, time to go through the grief, move on & be optimistic for the future.
 
mico said:
Whats funny is Adobe did this exact thing years ago. I started out using Premiere and adobe abandoned it only to come back several years later. i still have my hopes for FCP.
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Not sure what you mean, Adobe never abandoned Premiere. They quit making it for the Mac, and then came back to the Mac platform, yes, but on Windows Premiere has been continuously available and constantly improved/upgraded since version 1.0.
 
I still use fcp 7. Its still useful. But there will be no upgrades for it and things change in the video world constantly and we need an app that adapts. I think this whole thing revolves around the sense that Apple may be abandoning its pro product lines so why stay with something that won't be around and updated. Better to bite the bullet and change now rather than later. Has Apple, which I am a fan of, showed or said anything to disprove this.
 
zijital said:
I still don't get why everyone got so freaked out by FCPX. When Panasonic released the HVX200 did all the DVX100 cameras stop working? FCPX has been out for months & I'm still using FCP7 perfectly fine. There will be a point where I need to upgrade, but until then I'm fine with FCP7.
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The problem is they set up a whole set of expectations by inviting a ton of professionals to an event and then later delivered a product which could not possibly meet the needs of those people in the room. I have never seen a company so completely destroy a market for themselves in such a short period of time. People may argue that this was intentional, however sadly nothing about it afterwards indicates to me that it was anything but a huge misstep.
 
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zijital said:
I still don't get why everyone got so freaked out by FCPX. When Panasonic released the HVX200 did all the DVX100 cameras stop working? FCPX has been out for months & I'm still using FCP7 perfectly fine. There will be a point where I need to upgrade, but until then I'm fine with FCP7.
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Well Final Cut has been outdated for a while. People put off switching hoping for an update. Instead it was a new product.
 
Jadotch said:
Well Final Cut has been outdated for a while. People put off switching hoping for an update. Instead it was a new product.
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Exactly. I waited and waited for the new Final Cut to come out since it was what I learned to edit on, and the program I became to depend on to earn a living. I was extremely disappointed when they released FCPX rather than a much needed update to the program I earned my living with. So i was faced with a choice, learn a new program like Premiere/ Avid or learn the new program Final Cut Pro X. This decision came at an interesting crossroads for me since I also was in desperate need of a new editing machine. The specs in the Mac Pro's don't justify their prices, and you're still not getting USB3.0, SATA III, Blu-Ray, or universal support for Nvidia Cuda cards, and 4 hard drives is kid space. I gutted my old PowerPC G5, modded the case and built a custom editing machine from the ground up to Dual Boot Windows and Mac, with Avid, CS5.5, FCP 3 and Resolve. The benchmark scores dwarf Apple's top of the line machines, and it cost an astonishing $5,000 less. If I had not been using Macs for the past ten years solely, (and subsequently learned to despise Windows OS) I would have switched back to PC solely and never looked back at Apple. I have replaced grading with Color to grading with Davinci Resolve, and I have replaced FCP with Premiere since the trip to and from AE can not get more seamless. FCP7 faithful you really truly, utterly don't understand what you're missing out on with the Mercury Playback Engine and CUDA Acceleration in Premiere.
 
Seems like companies always do that.

>Woohooo we are number 1 we must be doing it right.
>What shall we do for an upgrade.
> I know! Let reinvent the whole thing and target a whole new market segment!
>****release product****
> I dont know what went wrong are numbers are horrible!
 
Jadotch said:
Well Final Cut has been outdated for a while. People put off switching hoping for an update. Instead it was a new product.
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Yep, and thank god they did that. The "old" FCP (some call it "legacy" which makes it better than it was) was simply from the last millenium and had to be changed.
FCPX is very different and a completely new product and if they had given it another brandname would have had less bad press from the FCP-users.
 
alpi69 said:
Yep, and thank god they did that. The "old" FCP (some call it "legacy" which makes it better than it was) was simply from the last millenium and had to be changed.
FCPX is very different and a completely new product and if they had given it another brandname would have had less bad press from the FCP-users.
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I agree. FCP X is an OK product. Perhaps even an amazing product that will become truly pro in a matter of a year or so. Their marketing dept was really over-optimistic and thoughtless about the existing FCP users. If Sony had released it, people would be raving about it.
 
I must be missing something somewhere along the way. I have been editing for years, first film Steenbeck, then tape 2" Ace/RA4000/Callaway etc then 3/4 UMatic then Betacam, Off-Line Convergence/EditMaster then Avid, Premiere,Media 100 and some systems I can't remember, now FCP7 next who knows. I honestly find that in my work, docs, lifestyle and some corporate I have yet to run into a situation that I could not deal with in FCP 7. Perhaps I am just an old guy out of date but editing for me is as much editorial as it is technical and has not changed much from the Steenbeck (The first non linear editing system) with regard to editing a story.
I started NLE with Avid, switched to Media 100 because in the early days Avid were jerks and would not allow us to build and use our own drives and insisted on Avid drives on systems. The drives were standard Seagate in an Avid box at 4 times the price. Media 100 opened up the "build your own" NLE world on a Mac and entry level used Premiere, Premiere was a disaster at that time, so an upgrade to Media 100 software was a no brainer. Avid continued to build its market in broadcast with networks who had the big bucks. Macromedia began developing a"no board" software only based NLE and brought it along to the point that Apple could see potential and bought it and now many of us cut with it on our laptops as well as uber monster workstations.
Now folks are saying FCP is dead and FCX is iMovie on steroids etc. As someone noted the "Chicken Little" situation was amplified by Avid and Adobe to promote their products and it is easy for people to get caught up in the fear of being left behind. I think it is more about the software business than about editing. I know I will need to move to 64bit eventually but for now FCP7 works for me. Next who knows but one thing for sure change is good and that change may even include a platform change from Apple, though I hate the thought of dealing with a Microsoft OS maybe Linux is an option.
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This thread spurred me to download the trial fcpx. After uploading to my apps, I was able to get started faster than if I had opened premiere. And on Mac, the playback of H.264 is a revelation. Sad to lose the power of FCP7, but for quick projects, I could see this as a tool. Feel odd about the possibility of paying $400 for a 'phenomenal' consumer app set, when FCP7 and CS5 are at my fingertips.
 
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