Run&Gun
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It was along the lines of, "It's like looking out of a window". And now you have forums with guys saying that 8K is the new standard...
Apple 13 Series SUFFER NEW lens flaring / ghosting
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It was along the lines of, "It's like looking out of a window". And now you have forums with guys saying that 8K is the new standard...
Run&Gun
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Yep. We're all paying (sometimes large amounts of) hard-earned money to be beta testers, especially if you buy on day one.
NorBro
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LOL. That is exactly what I read the other day while troubleshooting digitizing with certain framerates and the conversation turned to HDV.
It's actually fun to go back and read some of those threads on various forums.
One guy was very adamant about NEVER, EVER using 24p for video. lol
[Which to his defense we probably all were kind of confused about it back then.]
Samsung says that a human eye sees about 500MPX, when adjusting for the angle of view. That's what they're indeed shooting for. From the well size, a 500 MPX sensor can be made today. The problem is not having a screen capable of reproducing the image. 16K is 132 MPX. 32K would be required format for the real "looking through the window" look.
PS. Of course, my windows haven't been washed in a while. I'd rate them as SD.
PS. Of course, my windows haven't been washed in a while. I'd rate them as SD.
demoboy
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I think Apple had sent Marcus the 128gb versions of the Pro and Max which from the Apple disclaimer, ProRes is not enabled. Only 256gb and up have ProRes
Run&Gun
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I’ve always said ProRes was a poor acquisition codec, because it isn’t very efficient. I spent $2K having the ProRes/DNxHD card installed in my F55, because everyone just had to have ProRes. ProRes had zero image quality advantage over the native XAVC, but took up more space per minute on the cards. And I think I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve shot ProRes on that camera in six years.
ahalpert
Major Contributor
really? Have you seen any downward movement in the price of cloud storage lately? HDDs themselves have bottomed out at $20/TB for the cheapest ones since like 5 years ago. And God forbid we face a materials scarcity.
and realistically, if cloud capacity increases by 10x or 100x, and consumers increase data storage needs by 10x or 100x... gee, if only there were a way to capture high quality video using less data than prores...
Also gotta wonder about the radiation we're giving ourselves by transmitting all this data. Especially with 5G... "the cancer was worth it so my frenemies could watch my baby crying live in stunning hdr"
Apple uses Pro Res because it's their own codec. Others will use H265 and soon thereafter H266. And, when properly graded, it'll suffice for the majority of uses. The high end pros will then be the last ones working with some form of a compressed fake Raw like CRL. Which will suffice for everything beside the big budget productions.
demoboy
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I'm actually more interested in the type of flare presented from the Apple action video. one lens is bouncing around as we can see the optical image stabilization going hectic, then there's another lens that's more static. What's going on?
I have a feeling Apple is using lenses simultaneously. I know that sounds crazy..
I have a feeling Apple is using lenses simultaneously. I know that sounds crazy..
It sounds reasonable. A couple of years ago, Apple was sued by an Israeli company Corephotonics about theft of their patents. Apple tried buying them, didn't like the price but decided to adopt the technology anyway. Corephotonics won the lawsuit and was then acquired by Samsung. Samsung is an Apple sensor supplier but Samsung won't let Apple license its periscope lens design, something it licenses to the Chinese manufacturers such as Huawei, OPPO, etc. And, indeed of all the major manufacturers, Apple is the only on without the periscope zoom. Which means it has to do something else, a stack of multiple camera modules and lenses. And not infringe on Corephotonics/Samsung's rights.
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