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I think the reason the panasonic doesn't is because it doesn't have the oval bit.
Anamorphic Adapter Inquiry: What would you like to see?
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I think the reason the panasonic doesn't is because it doesn't have the oval bit.
Digigenic
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Dude, you are not alone.
Digigenic
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the aperture blades have an undenible impact on the rendering of bokeh and I don't think there is anything an adapter can do to change that.
I cite the clear differences in bokeh that exist between the Nikkor 85 f1.8 vs 85 f1.4. You pay more for the 85 f1.4 not just because it's sharper at higher apertures, but because it renders smoother bokeh - attributed largely to the numer of blades.
In another lens, I've seen anomalies such as halo bokeh, where they look like little doughnuts floating in the background. I have no idea what causes that.
I cite the clear differences in bokeh that exist between the Nikkor 85 f1.8 vs 85 f1.4. You pay more for the 85 f1.4 not just because it's sharper at higher apertures, but because it renders smoother bokeh - attributed largely to the numer of blades.
In another lens, I've seen anomalies such as halo bokeh, where they look like little doughnuts floating in the background. I have no idea what causes that.
Digigenic
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I don't know, maybe it can be a two part adapter, something that mounts to the front of the lens and an additional piece that attaches to the rear and can double as a mount converter?
That seems too complex and ultimately out of the question given optical variabilities between the two pieces leaving a higher rate of error and inconsistency. It was the only thing I could think of though to confront the bokeh question.
That seems too complex and ultimately out of the question given optical variabilities between the two pieces leaving a higher rate of error and inconsistency. It was the only thing I could think of though to confront the bokeh question.
Remember, the lens will take care of how bokeh is rendered as far as smooth, jagged, etc goes. The Adapter would only need an Oval Element to produce oval Boekh.
IN fact, any of you with a Panasonic Adapter can easily confirm this by doing this:
http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_create_your_own_bokeh
Before:
After:
This was done with a piece my GF cut out for me. It's a wooden disc with an Oval in the center that's just barely larger than the iris is @ wide open apertures. So the 85/1.4 is wide open and the bokeh is projected as an Oval.
If you put the Anamorphic adapter (panasonic) over this then you get the flares and the bokeh. I'm sure the results could be much better when time is taken to create discs just like the Lens Baby's come with.
IN fact, any of you with a Panasonic Adapter can easily confirm this by doing this:
http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_create_your_own_bokeh
Before:
After:
This was done with a piece my GF cut out for me. It's a wooden disc with an Oval in the center that's just barely larger than the iris is @ wide open apertures. So the 85/1.4 is wide open and the bokeh is projected as an Oval.
If you put the Anamorphic adapter (panasonic) over this then you get the flares and the bokeh. I'm sure the results could be much better when time is taken to create discs just like the Lens Baby's come with.
Lee Wilson
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Lee Wilson
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Looks like this guy has adapted his front element so that it can screw onto any old lens - even one's without a recessed front element - (might introduce some vignetting though ?)
Not a very neat job, but looks to be a good idea, this means I could mount the Iscorama 50's front element onto my Nikon f1.2 !!
Night time anamorphic fun !
(from this page: http://wonder-papillon.air-nifty.com/osanpo/isco_gottingen_iscorama/index.html )
Lee Wilson
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Good thinking, or maybe buy some cheap filters and knock out the glass.
Tracey Lee
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There would be vignetting though, I have been trying it and the rear glass is too small to clear most any lens you would want to put it on.
Digigenic
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No, actually it was the new Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 IF EX DG HSM that produced the doughnut style bokeh I saw.
Well, I talked to ISCO this morning and it got very obvious that they only got a few requests but they are far from having thought about starting a new development! This would require not only some tech. requirements (as was mentined here for instance) but thinking about possible sale numbers + sales price, development + production efforts etc. We surely talk about many months - IF THEY DECIDE TO EVER GO THAT ROUTE!!
Emanuel
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Who have you been talking with? There's only a responsible inside who can decide it.
For your information, it's me who has pushed the manufacturing with them. I already have the figures of development (and production) for. Exactly from that responsible above-mentioned. Other members here have had access to a few details but through private messaging. We only need 50 purchasers interested on such product. That's what I'm trying to get. Between Canon 5D Mark II and upcoming Scarlet shooters, I believe you'll get news from us.
Speaking of technical requirements, they've developed and will produce, with third parties such as Schneider (Isco owner, according a third source) and IB/E (an optical design firm), the Rebels (project working title). It is a set of 35mm glass for motion picture presented last NAB and scheduled to the next IBC in a few days. So, they are aware of this market.
For your information, it's me who has pushed the manufacturing with them. I already have the figures of development (and production) for. Exactly from that responsible above-mentioned. Other members here have had access to a few details but through private messaging. We only need 50 purchasers interested on such product. That's what I'm trying to get. Between Canon 5D Mark II and upcoming Scarlet shooters, I believe you'll get news from us.
Speaking of technical requirements, they've developed and will produce, with third parties such as Schneider (Isco owner, according a third source) and IB/E (an optical design firm), the Rebels (project working title). It is a set of 35mm glass for motion picture presented last NAB and scheduled to the next IBC in a few days. So, they are aware of this market.
Emanuel
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Anthony, exactly my idea. But the financing already started. Yes, we the purchase group I've been gathering. The development will start as soon as we want with the agreement and in touch with Isco. They are the manufacturer, after all ;-) there's also a rigorous time frame for.
So, the production of an adapter will be a way more easy than a full range of primes. Moreover, I can affirm solemnly and formally as true :laugh: that we can advance any time with the production (less than 50 units) of one of those old models already known.
With the exception of the combos MC 2001 (Nikon) and this one (Praktica) which I'm just receiving from a well-known polish supplier only because there's no more stock from the supplier (Nikon, Praktica, etc):
It had been half weekend long in the hall of my building inside the doorkeeper room 'cause the italian postal service had left the box outside the mail box, despite the concern for signature required and full insurance paid requirements. LOL (I'm laughing now just because I didn't lose the lens)
Note: These overexposed pictures are coming from the seller (they are not mine).
So, the production of an adapter will be a way more easy than a full range of primes. Moreover, I can affirm solemnly and formally as true :laugh: that we can advance any time with the production (less than 50 units) of one of those old models already known.
With the exception of the combos MC 2001 (Nikon) and this one (Praktica) which I'm just receiving from a well-known polish supplier only because there's no more stock from the supplier (Nikon, Praktica, etc):
It had been half weekend long in the hall of my building inside the doorkeeper room 'cause the italian postal service had left the box outside the mail box, despite the concern for signature required and full insurance paid requirements. LOL (I'm laughing now just because I didn't lose the lens)
Note: These overexposed pictures are coming from the seller (they are not mine).