AG-DVX200 4K Large-Sensor Handheld Camcorder

mapper65 said:
This just showed up in a search for DVX200 on Vimeo. I haven't watched it yet so I can't attest to the quality of information presented but I thought I would share the link. https://vimeo.com/148542281
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I nice rundown by Rule.com on the camera features with a small amount of footage that they shot with it. Gave me a better understanding of the limited low light capabilities of the camera.
 
dear Barry!

Thank you very much for this excellent e-book!
Gives a lot of new information
After reading only strengthened the feeling, that this is an excellent camera.
I made a mistake with the choice, because it is not designed for what I need
not a category in the AC-160's camera
I am very enthusiastic, to work with this camera. (DVX 200 Of course)
if only this device alone, it is good
but multi-camera live productions fail
...and that's a lot of noise to me

thanks again a lot of work on the book

I'm thankful: Dani
 
Mabou said:
Hi Bassman... I wish that were true for all of us 270 users. There was most certainly some kind of random hardware issue with the camera. I spent a lot of time with Panasonic engineers and reps on this one. Panasonic even featured me as one of their pros on the Panasonic 270 webpage. There appeared to be manufacturing issues, but not something that Panasonic would agree to replace my camera. I am friends with quite a few users of the 270 through various user groups, I know of four others who sold the camera because of grain, they all walked away before I did. I wish I had walked earlier because by the time I decided to sell it, B&H told me they weren't interested because of all the returns they had, and Adorama barely bought it for the same reason. I know there are some good units out there, probably more than there are bad units, but for too many of us this otherwise incredible camera had issues. (I have to say, I really miss the sense of security that I had with shooting to P2 cards). I LOVED the 270 in every way except for the grain problem. You can get an idea of what I saw with the 270 in the little screen grab. The grain was so bad across the frame that it even looked a bit out of focus. Like there were ants swarming every scene. This was shot with scene files provided by Panasonic to try to fix the problem. Helped marginally, but it was like trying to paint over rocks... nice paint but the rocks are still there.
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Sorry to hear about your experiences. I was very frustrated with the IS issues which were eventually worked out. Panasonic is definitely not what it used to be. They seem like they are spread too thin and barely getting these things out the door. I idea of "I got a good one" is just not acceptable in pro video. One really needs to research and check out ANY camera purchase these days.
 
I got the camera back the PME South-East Europe Branch office.
I have included recordings on the disk with camera files, and side by side video.
the answer:
"DVD showing picture is very good and some flare is present to pointing
at direct light."
Oh my God! the disk is full of erroneous recordings
no comment...

the end of our relationship with the camera
 
pancam said:
I got the camera back the PME South-East Europe Branch office.
I have included recordings on the disk with camera files, and side by side video.
the answer:
"DVD showing picture is very good and some flare is present to pointing
at direct light."
Oh my God! the disk is full of erroneous recordings
no comment...

the end of our relationship with the camera
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This post needs more detail ;)
 
Time to give up, cut your losses and move on, Pancam. Nothing that could happen now would make you feel confident and comfortable about using the camera in the future. I hope you can find another tool that meets your needs.

- Greg
 
pancam said:
I got the camera back the PME South-East Europe Branch office.
I have included recordings on the disk with camera files, and side by side video.
the answer:
"DVD showing picture is very good and some flare is present to pointing
at direct light."
Oh my God! the disk is full of erroneous recordings
no comment...

the end of our relationship with the camera
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Recognizing that this is Panasonic centric website, hey I shot with a DVX100 and a GH, this whole experience makes me wonder if Pannie has gradually lost the ability to serve the low to middle end professional videographer. They lost a lot of money by betting on 3D cameras, and have retrenched. I am sure that the engineers are giving us the best they can within the constraints placed on them by management. However, I have watched the problems multiply with each new launch. I cannot accept unfinished cameras with obvious defects in the way they process color. I simply do not have the time to do more than slightly alter standard profiles. Look at the variation in grain noise between different samples of the 270 series, look at the AF100, look at the the DVX200 simply not being the camera they promised.

It looks like Canon's strategy is to deliver great out of the box experiences with no regard to using cutting edge technology, and Sony is selling cutting edge technology, and JVC is try to compete on price. I cannot tell you how frustrated the DVX200 has left me. I turned down some great offers to buy very good proven equipment at great prices because I believed Panasonic's promises about the DVX200. Intended to purchase three. Mistake. Big mistake. Huge pain.

I am not alone. I have spoken to several friends in this industry who have suffered similar emotional letdowns from this whole experience. We will not forget, as much as we would like to forget.
 
Pancam... I agree with Greg. Barry Green took an analytical look at your footage, as did some of the community here... Panasonic support took a look, and all agreed that there is not really much of an issue. This camera is just not working for you. I sympathize, but seems it is time to take the hit and get a camera that will meet your needs. Sorry to hear this didn't work out and all the best to you.
Matt
 
MANUAL FOCUS – I spoke with an engineer yesterday and was told that work was being done on the manual focus ring drive FINE control issue. Thank you, Barry. I don't think we're going to see a 540-degree throw, Barry, because I believe that was only intended at extreme telephoto, where it was thought fine control was needed. It is my hope that it is now understood by the factory that a shooter may need fine control at a 50% zoom, or even less—especially with a large sensor camera. My experience, even with the small sensor of the AC90 is that at 50% zoom a one-number difference in focus setting can make the difference between a subject 75 feet from the camera being sharp or soft. We really need the fine control throughout the zoom range so that we can snap to these numbers quickly and accurately in a run n gun setting.

STICKY ZOOM RING – The factory has also been made aware of the mechanical "catch point" issue with the zoom ring, but I don't believe there will be any attempt at addressing it. Just don't apply upward pressure with the thumb when operating the zoom ring I guess. The stiffness of the zoom ring reported by Brad Forman (or stickiness as I refer to it) and verified by level two support on their copy, I think really limits the creep zoom utility of the ring.
 
bluesgeek said:
MANUAL FOCUS – I spoke with an engineer yesterday and was told that work was being done on the manual focus ring drive FINE control issue. Thank you, Barry. I don't think we're going to see a 540-degree throw, Barry, because I believe that was only intended at extreme telephoto, where it was thought fine control was needed. It is my hope that it is now understood by the factory that a shooter may need fine control at a 50% zoom, or even less—especially with a large sensor camera. My experience, even with the small sensor of the AC90 is that at 50% zoom a one-number difference in focus setting can make the difference between a subject 75 feet from the camera being sharp or soft. We really need the fine control throughout the zoom range so that we can snap to these numbers quickly and accurately in a run n gun setting.
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Please allow me to update this with another thought about a preference for a constant focus ring "throw" rather than one that varies according to zoom range, so that the user can make initial changes by feel and only have to look at the LCD or viewfinder to settle in on the precise focus number. I think that many run n gun shooters, especially sports shooters are looking outside and around the viewfinder or LCD more often that looking into it. When I am shooting sports I am only looking into the LCD about 20% of the time or less—glancing briefly for a fraction of a second, every second or two, to quickly check framing and focus, so the ideal is to be able to make most of the continual zoom and focus adjustments by feel. Having a constant focus throw regardless the zoom setting would help in that process.
 
Hey Dave, did Panasonic explain whether the fine focus drive could be fixed with another firmware update, or if it's something hardware related?
 
Philiplipetz, Mabou!
Thank you so much compassion.
I tried everything
sad that a company can do this with

Mapper65
Yes, they are good shots,
but they were made outside....i can do that there too
and do not need cut in the another camera image to DVX
this camera is hungry to light

thank you for your attention
 
My experience with DVX200 is that, you should be expert in tweaking scene files. I dont understand, why its so hard for panasonic to ship some decent scene files? my event footages were all red greenish tint & hard to get rid of....I love DVX200 every thing except colors....I will buy again when panasonic fixes this simple issue.

Also I get frustrated when people talk about "the footage is not great but acceptable" well tell that to clients who pay thousands of $ for shoot. Also, when you spend 4 grand on a camera " WHY acceptable pictures quality I want best out of best" that is why I am paying 4k right ??? Am I right??
 
Brad Forman said:
How have you been making out Mapper?
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I spent all weekend reading Barry's book and it definitely helped me understand many more things about the DXV200. Coming from a Sony background the book really helped me to get a handle on the differences in terminology and layout of the camera.

Unfortunately haven't had much time to do any meaningful shooting with the camera. I'm currently working on a project that would have been a very good first project for the DVX200. I received Barry's GH4 scene file a little too late or I may have shot this project on the DVX200. I'm using my Nikon D800 instead. I'm familiar with the camera and it gets me the results I'm looking for. I suspect the same will be true with the DVX200 very soon. Some of my goofing off footage with Barry's GH4 scenes is looking pretty good.

I suspect before too long we'll see some more scene files that will give us even more options. My earlier panic mode seems to be over thanks to Barry and a few conversations with Panasonic. I really believe that Panasonic has made a commitment to support the DVX200 in whatever means that it takes through firmware and/or scene files.
 
I have three sets of scenes files, each containing six scenes. How do I know if I have loaded scene 1, from scene set 2, correctly? Yes, I have read Barry's book but can you tell by looking at the text files in a text editor and comparing what you see there to what you see on the camera's LCD display?
 
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