Steve Kahn
Well-known member
Have to say the Shoot35 looks pretty damn good.
CPM, when do you think you'll have something similar to sell?
CPM, when do you think you'll have something similar to sell?
Affordable Rods and support
- Thread starter swanny
- Start date
benniles
Well-known member
This Shape wlb rig looks alright.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/734266-REG/Shape_wlb_COMPOGRIP.html
Anyone have any experience with it?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/734266-REG/Shape_wlb_COMPOGRIP.html
Anyone have any experience with it?
You have to order from their website I believe, which makes it almost 2x the price because of currency conversion.
Terry_Lasater
All about the Caption
So if one went with the Zacuto universal base plate ($532 and B&H)...
One still needs:
Rods. Does it matter which ones? Does 40cm sound about right?
Lens support. Which one?
What about this one from Shoot35 for $360?
Anyone used this?
Looks decent but that support is made for their SGblade 35mm adaptor.
Melvin Harris
Black Flag Member
The more I look at this stuff, the more I want to keep as much money as I possibly can and Frankenstein together a solution that works for me. This bit from these guys, other bits from the next guys, and the sum of their parts creating a greater whole.
bgundu
Veteran
kylekmd
Well-known member
At the Chicago AF100 show at Abel Cine last night they had several rigs, many with 25 cm rods... a few with 40 cm rods. The AF100 is small. The reps said 25 cm rods will work, with room for FF and MB.
So, my recommendation still stands for an AFFORDABLE rig, the Cavision previously mentioned will work... Unless you plan on using a Zeiss LWZ.2 which is 21 cm long.
All depends on what lenses are in your kit. If you're coming from the DSLR world, with a host of Canon or Nikon lenses, it will be fine.
So, my recommendation still stands for an AFFORDABLE rig, the Cavision previously mentioned will work... Unless you plan on using a Zeiss LWZ.2 which is 21 cm long.
All depends on what lenses are in your kit. If you're coming from the DSLR world, with a host of Canon or Nikon lenses, it will be fine.
Melvin Harris
Black Flag Member
"Affordable" is a relative idea though. I, personally, can't afford to buy any gear more than once so spending a little more than usual for the right thing once is infinitely smarter.
Steve Kahn
Well-known member
The difficult thing at this point is figuring out what the right things are.
bgundu
Veteran
You'll know when you have the camera in hand. I wouldn't buy anything until you handle the AF100 to see how it sits comfortably on you.
Bob
Bob
Steve Kahn
Well-known member
You're right about that, Bob. It will all be more clear early next year. That being said, I think I will stay away from the shoulder mount and keep it simple so will just need a base plate and rails for mounting a follow focus and matte box. Even keeping it simple doesn't feel so simple at this point.
SantaCruzMichael
Well-known member
CAVISION rods have a dangerous defect
CAVISION rods have a dangerous defect
I shudder whenever I think of someone putting a valuable camera on one of these Cavision rod systems.
They have a SERIOUS design defect that can result in your camera toppling to the ground. I caught mine when the top and bottom halves of the rod system came apart. I hope you are as lucky. In the meantime, consider the repair shown below.
The camera plate on these RSM-series units is held on by ONE allen head screw. ONE. As if that wasn't bad enough, some genius designer put a 3/8 tripod hole through the bottom plate so that it bisects the threaded hole of that ONE critical allen screw.
BEHOLD:
The result is that the allen screw passes through a few millimeters of proper threads, perhaps two full turns of thread. After that, the screw has threads along one side and is completely open on the other. (A shadow in the hole in this photo makes it look like the screw passes through more metal than it really does. The threads are as deep as the distance between the outer edge of the 3/8 hole and the edge of the base plate. A couple millimeters, tops.) A minor amount of torsion will strip those two revolutions of threads, and once they are stripped, your camera plate and camera will tumble off of your rig. ZOIKS!!!!
If you insist on using these rod systems, please make the following repair, or something similar.
I placed a small pellet of lead (available at any hardware store) into the 3/8 hole so that it rests against the exposed allen screw. See below. (sorry for the blurry iPhone photos. Embarassing.)
Then, I put a 3/8 inch set screw (also available at any hardware store) into the tripod hole and tightened it down so that it presses the lead wafer into the allen screw's threads. My set screw happened to fit perfectly flush. You may need to file it down depending on the length yours is:
When you need to adjust the ONE allen screw that holds everything together, loosen the 3/8 safety screw first and then re-tighten. This repair cost less than a dollar and has proven very solid so far.
Best of luck if you choose to go with Cavision!
_M
CAVISION rods have a dangerous defect
I shudder whenever I think of someone putting a valuable camera on one of these Cavision rod systems.
They have a SERIOUS design defect that can result in your camera toppling to the ground. I caught mine when the top and bottom halves of the rod system came apart. I hope you are as lucky. In the meantime, consider the repair shown below.
The camera plate on these RSM-series units is held on by ONE allen head screw. ONE. As if that wasn't bad enough, some genius designer put a 3/8 tripod hole through the bottom plate so that it bisects the threaded hole of that ONE critical allen screw.
BEHOLD:
The result is that the allen screw passes through a few millimeters of proper threads, perhaps two full turns of thread. After that, the screw has threads along one side and is completely open on the other. (A shadow in the hole in this photo makes it look like the screw passes through more metal than it really does. The threads are as deep as the distance between the outer edge of the 3/8 hole and the edge of the base plate. A couple millimeters, tops.) A minor amount of torsion will strip those two revolutions of threads, and once they are stripped, your camera plate and camera will tumble off of your rig. ZOIKS!!!!
If you insist on using these rod systems, please make the following repair, or something similar.
I placed a small pellet of lead (available at any hardware store) into the 3/8 hole so that it rests against the exposed allen screw. See below. (sorry for the blurry iPhone photos. Embarassing.)
Then, I put a 3/8 inch set screw (also available at any hardware store) into the tripod hole and tightened it down so that it presses the lead wafer into the allen screw's threads. My set screw happened to fit perfectly flush. You may need to file it down depending on the length yours is:
When you need to adjust the ONE allen screw that holds everything together, loosen the 3/8 safety screw first and then re-tighten. This repair cost less than a dollar and has proven very solid so far.
Best of luck if you choose to go with Cavision!
_M
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kylekmd
Well-known member
Not trying to beat this to death, but what model is that? It looks like one of the older versions... not the RS15MQIIR.
I was referring to the latest model, designed for DSLR and smaller video cameras, such as AF100.
Either way, I've had no problem with mine. I have other rail systems, too--Arri MBP1, Redrock--but those are obviously more expensive. The original inquiry was about "affordable."
I was referring to the latest model, designed for DSLR and smaller video cameras, such as AF100.
Either way, I've had no problem with mine. I have other rail systems, too--Arri MBP1, Redrock--but those are obviously more expensive. The original inquiry was about "affordable."