AF100 / AF101 - initial report

Barry_Green said:
Actually, you can't. No matter how much you spend on a DSLR, you're not going to get a built-in waveform monitor, or overcranking in 1080p, or alias-free images, or metadata, user clip name control, cinelike-D gamma, user-saveable scene files, timecode, the ability to sync timecode with other camcorders through LTC, an HD-SDI output at full 1920x1080 @ 4:2:2 and running at 24pSf, live monitoring during recording through HDMI and HD-SDI and composite all simultaneously, built-in hassle-free neutral density filters, or any of the dozens of other things that the AF100 does that a DSLR cannot do and will never be able to do..
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From all this list ND filters, proper AA filter are the only ones that can't be cheaply implemented in VDSLR. And SDI and timecode here is the only ones serious hadrware modifications (that require extra components and connectors).
All else is simple software and small (or none at all) LSI changes.

The AF100 is for those of us who want a rock-solid reliable product that has all the features and conveniences we need, without trying to resort to aftermarket modifications.
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I really love AF100, but I don't think that all future owners of this camera don't need any aftermarket modifications :-)
 
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Somewhere I read this:

"The AG-AF100 has a Four Thirds sensor in 16:9 aspect ratio and captures 1080i-resolution videos in various frame rates (60i, 30p and 24p for NTSC markets, and 50i, 25p and 24p for PAL regions)."

So is this a PAL/NTSC (better to say 50Hz and 60Hz with HD world) switchable camcorder out of the box or not? Can somebody confirm it? Then why are there different models (100 and 101)?
Thanks
 
jockey said:
Somewhere I read this:

"The AG-AF100 has a Four Thirds sensor in 16:9 aspect ratio and captures 1080i-resolution videos in various frame rates (60i, 30p and 24p for NTSC markets, and 50i, 25p and 24p for PAL regions)."

So is this a PAL/NTSC (better to say 50Hz and 60Hz with HD world) switchable camcorder out of the box or not? Can somebody confirm it? Then why are there different models (100 and 101)?
Thanks
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1080p
 
I just noticed a major bummer, and I'm sure someone else here noticed it too.

The gain control is L, M, H ... So I'm assuming there's no breakdown of real iso controls. That hurts, that hurts bad.
 
dmpsk8 said:
I just noticed a major bummer, and I'm sure someone else here noticed it too.

The gain control is L, M, H ... So I'm assuming there's no breakdown of real iso controls. That hurts, that hurts bad.
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Barry Green reported that the camera has two modes, like the HVX, film cam and video cam -- and that in film cam modes you can adjust ISO, and in video cam you can adjust gain levels.

He was a little fuzzy on the ISO options, relating to the model he tested was a prototype with limited ISO options.
 
http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/the_panasonic_ag-af101_intro_video/

explains a lot of the ergonomics of the camera, and he promotes using the AVC INTRA sdi recorder with it if you want a higher quality recording, if the SDI is gonna be 8 bit, why are the promoting 10 bit recording?

A. still a good chance that it's gonna be 10 bit sdi, they just haven't unlocked it for the prototype yet

B. they just want to promote their intra recorder and gloss over the fact that it's gonna be a 8 bit signal...

and barry, you're on the INTRANETS!!
 
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xmephestox said:
http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/the_panasonic_ag-af101_intro_video/

explains a lot of the ergonomics of the camera, and he promotes using the AVC INTRA sdi recorder with it if you want a higher quality recording, if the SDI is gonna be 8 bit, why are the promoting 10 bit recording?

A. still a good chance that it's gonna be 10 bit sdi, they just haven't unlocked it for the prototype yet

B. they just want to promote their intra recorder and gloss over the fact that it's gonna be a 8 bit signal...

and barry, your on the INTRANETS!!
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Good point! They really have to reconsider that 10-bit output. :kali:
 
It said on the B and H website that the camera is only 2.64 lbs (1.2kg). IS this an approximation or exact weight. Seems kind of light even without the lens... If that's the case, flying on a steadicam will be something interesting. I was planning on flying more like 7 or 8 pounds...
 
My guess is that is the weight without the battery or lens - but even then, that's pretty light.
Lighter than I expected, that's for sure.

But I guess an HPX170 comes in at around 4.2lbs, and it's safe to assume that at least half of that weight comes from the lens (and that camera is nearly 3/4 lens).
So, 2.64lbs sounds about right.
 
Thanks Luis... You are right about that. I guess I have some decisions on what to get for a steadicam setup as I'll only be flying the AF100 with wider lenses. Kind of puts it in between on a few things...


I'm sure a lot of people are saving up for this. I just also hope that they release an updated lens like the 14-140. If they did and made it a 2.8 or something I'd be down for shelling out 2K for that baby...

cheers all.
 
This the first time I have posted on the forums, but I have been looking for a while for DVX 100A tips. My photographer friend and I have collaborated on projects and he has a nice collection of Nikon Lenses. I am hoping we can mount Nikon Lenses to this when the price comes down a bit and they iron out the kinks.
 
Barry when you kept referring to looking at the "backlit" DSC chart to test 10.5 stops DR for af100, what do you mean when you say backlit? I mean does this in any way affect the results? Just not sure if 'backlit' is a negative or positive thing, i.e. is it ideally supposed to NOT be backlit?

Barry was DR NOTICEABLY better than DSLR's like gh1 and 7d/5d when you poked around? I mean how did highlights hold up and skin tones etc? 10.5 is close to original Red I believe, did the footage look anywhere close to original Red to you?

thanks
 
Hey All,

Barry, couple quickies.. May have missed a few of these in the the past 43 pages.

1) Is this cam a CMOS or CCD? Rolling Shutter still an issue if it's CMOS?

2) Is there ISO settings, like 100, 200, 400, 500, ~ 1600, 2000 ect...

3) Thanks!
Brian
 
impressive creations said:
Hey All,

Barry, couple quickies.. May have missed a few of these in the the past 43 pages.

1) Is this cam a CMOS or CCD? Rolling Shutter still an issue if it's CMOS?

2) Is there ISO settings, like 100, 200, 400, 500, ~ 1600, 2000 ect...

3) Thanks!
Brian
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come on dude read at least some of the thread it's all covered multiple times and i mean literally every few pages.
 
impressive creations said:
1) Is this cam a CMOS or CCD? Rolling Shutter still an issue if it's CMOS?
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CMOS.
And yes, rolling shutter is the nature of the beast when using a CMOS camera.
From what Barry has said (in the first post of this thread), it seemed to be at least as good as an HPX370/EX1 in regards to skew.

2) Is there ISO settings, like 100, 200, 400, 500, ~ 1600, 2000 ect...
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Yes there are - Barry mentioned it in the first post in this thread - the sensitivity can be set by ISO instead of by gain levels.
 
xmephestox said:
one of the most stellar things i've heard all day! that is amazing, AMAZING news. any chance you have enough nagging power to convince them that 10 bit SDI is a necessity and they have no choice about it? :)
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Lol, you're not even a dp Tom.....

I love that you're so dedicated to the 10bit cause.
 
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