Absolutely ridiculous Premiere CS4 issue.

I feel your frustration. If you are a PC user, I would tell you to throw Adobe out the window and make a run for Edius. No editing software is perfect but Edius will give you less headache and more works done with peace of mind. At least that's my experience.

I shot some sermon messages on HDV that's 40 minutes to an hour and I'll tell you...try capturing that and than wait for Premiere to conform the video and audio. Oh my goodness!! I didn't know I had to wait forever for it to conform before I can do anythin with it. With Edius, you have the option of conforming or not. The audio will always be there. If you conform it, it takes 1/4 the time of Adobe.

Premiere has its place but right now, it's collecting dust.
 
It seems like this Mac-specific problem that is, for some people, solved by the cleaner script (on the highest, "hidden" level), and for others, not. I dare say this is Apple's problem, since the x86-based software is basically the same code for PC and Mac.

I'm a PC user, so I can't give any better advice other than to keep at it (there must be a solution since others have solved it, even if they're using methods that don't work for you), but Premiere CS4 runs great for me, and I've usually got PPro, AE, Photoshop, Mocha, and sometimes Flash and/or ProTools all running at once.

I realize that's not much help. Good luck.
 
Do you have adobe media encoder cs3 installed on there? I am unsure of mac but i know i had an issue on my pc. I had to uninstall cs4 first then cs3 then reinstall cs4.

I should elaborate on my issue....... AME CS4 seemed to work fine but just would not render anything until the older version was gone.
 
there is an update for Adobe Media Encoder, at Adobe.com, as well as updating prem, or you could try the render queue in AE for a work around
 
Would you use the CleanScript utility to uninstall CS3 before installing CS4 or just use the Windows uninstall in Control Panel on a PC?
 
Gary I was having sooooo much problems with cs4 that I switched to avid. I have been using ppro since 1.5. However, cs4 is the most unstable version I have ever used. If you can afford it save yourself the headache and go with Avid or FCP.
 
manymoosh said:
Gary I was having sooooo much problems with cs4 that I switched to avid. I have been using ppro since 1.5. However, cs4 is the most unstable version I have ever used. If you can afford it save yourself the headache and go with Avid or FCP.
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Thats interesting, my PP CS4 has been great and stable too until i added 3rd party plug ins. I stay with it because of the pipeline of Photoshop, After Effects and Encore.
 
manymoosh said:
Gary I was having sooooo much problems with cs4 that I switched to avid. I have been using ppro since 1.5. However, cs4 is the most unstable version I have ever used. If you can afford it save yourself the headache and go with Avid or FCP.
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CS4 is working great for me - very stable, and very fast. It's not perfect, but it always gets the job done.
 
Premiere Pro CS4 has proved to be a nice NLE for the office for awhile now. - We've worked through a few kinks here and there, but the seamless nature of the entire Adobe suite is what keeps us loyal.
 
I also have ran into the Magic Bullet Looks issue creating the null handles earlier this month after trying to install the latest Red Giant updates. After I reloaded CS4, half of the Adobe updates would not install. I spent a couple days uninstalling, reinstalling, defragging, repairing permissions, and deleting caches before I chose the nuclear option. After wiping the Mac and reinstalling everything stuff is running properly again and much faster.
 
pathfinder said:
I feel your frustration. If you are a PC user, I would tell you to throw Adobe out the window and make a run for Edius. No editing software is perfect but Edius will give you less headache and more works done with peace of mind. At least that's my experience.

I shot some sermon messages on HDV that's 40 minutes to an hour and I'll tell you...try capturing that and than wait for Premiere to conform the video and audio. Oh my goodness!! I didn't know I had to wait forever for it to conform before I can do anythin with it. With Edius, you have the option of conforming or not. The audio will always be there. If you conform it, it takes 1/4 the time of Adobe.

Premiere has its place but right now, it's collecting dust.
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What are talking about I can capture HDV from tape like I am editng DV-25 (Mini DV) I can also play AVCHD in it's native format at full frame rate and full resolution Edius can not. I can have people burn HDV or even AVCHD to DVD and just drop it in my timeline. I admit it is better to copy the files to the hard drive first.

I switched from Edius to the CS4 Master Collection about 6 months ago. Edius is not bad but it can not compete with the CS4 Master Collection. My Edius 3.5 collects dust but what is your excuse for letting Premiere collect dust? Can't you sell it on ebay? Canopus does not offer upgrades past version 4. Who sucks now?
 
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I'm having serious issues with Premiere to. I could be me but I will frustrated and the editing takes too long.

The biggest drawback is the fact that you have to go via Media Encoder to get something out of it. It's not fast or versatile.

I had problems at first and had to make a shortcut of the Premiere Pro.exe file, rename it to Premiere (without exe at the end) and put it in the Adobe Dynamic Link library. And I had to remove an old CS3 folder. Now I can export and render but it's still a stupid way to work.

Coming from Avid many things feels linear in opposite to the feeling I have in Avid where it's very non-linear. I always rough edit first sorting out material and putting everything on the timeline and throwing away parts as I go by. Almost exclusivly I use mark in, mark out and "x" to simply delete and have it to ripple. Same thing when shuffling around parts by cut-n-paste method. This is extremely fast but I can't to do the same thing in Premiere... I have two good things to say about Premiere.

1. You can easily import almost any video file very fast.
2. When handling 720/50p files I can make slow motion clips very easy.

But other than that it's a consumer program and doesn't cut it for pros and I'm a pro editor for the last 14 years.
 
editman said:
The biggest drawback is the fact that you have to go via Media Encoder to get something out of it. It's not fast or versatile.
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I agree !

Coming from Avid many things feels linear in opposite to the feeling I have in Avid where it's very non-linear. I always rough edit first sorting out material and putting everything on the timeline and throwing away parts as I go by. Almost exclusivly I use mark in, mark out and "x" to simply delete and have it to ripple. Same thing when shuffling around parts by cut-n-paste method. This is extremely fast but I can't to do the same thing in Premiere...
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You can do the same thing in premiere in the timeline or in program monitor. "I" to mark in, "o" to mark out, " ' " to extract. You can re-map the keys if you want, in the preferences

I find sometimes ctrl dragging the ends of the clip is even faster, depending on what you want to do, and your personal editing style preferences
 
editman said:
The biggest drawback is the fact that you have to go via Media Encoder to get something out of it. It's not fast or versatile.
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It is if you need to queue up different renders. Place all your render jobs in a queue, go to sleep and it'll do it all for you. It might seem to be a little bit slower than how Premiere used to operate but in the long run you're benefiting from not using Premiere itself to render out since you're freed up the program for other things. I remember the pain of having to sit around for 2-3 hours just for one part of the project to finish rendering so I can get started on another one. You also get a video preview so that you can spot rendering mistakes without having to wait for the render to complete. Having a separate program do it also makes it more stable, since I've yet to see AME hang up or crash on larger projects.



editman said:
Coming from Avid many things feels linear in opposite to the feeling I have in Avid where it's very non-linear. I always rough edit first sorting out material and putting everything on the timeline and throwing away parts as I go by. Almost exclusivly I use mark in, mark out and "x" to simply delete and have it to ripple. Same thing when shuffling around parts by cut-n-paste method. This is extremely fast but I can't to do the same thing in Premiere... I have two good things to say about Premiere.
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As have been mentioned you can do this in the bin and preview windows by using subclip.
 
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