About to make my first DSLR purchase... would appreciate analysis.

Your worry about cramped hands is easily solved with this :

http://www.adorama.com/HAKGP02.html

:) best 16 bucks spent.

I dont have huge hands, but i have definitely abused my hands with over 10 years in 3d/CG. The t2i is light,..its great. The 5d ,say, is beefier to grip but its also heavier. I like my t2i in that regard.
In this exact moment, my right hand is almost completely numb from comping, rotoing, doing beauty work on a music video, 12 hour days for about a week clutching a wacom pen. I can pick up the t2i with that grip and, say, the 50mm and go out shooting all day no problem.

For a tripod, here is what i chose and why :

google : slik 504qf2

My father who has been (and still is a dp) for a bit over 40 years came and helped me test some simple cheap tripods at Samys here in LA. He has a big beefy, several thousand dollars, old-school sachtler that i can borrow if i need to. Im not a dp so i needed smth small and cheap.
We tried everything in the shop. Sat quiet and slowly tried horizontal, then vertical then s-curves.

The Manfrotto 501s or whatever heads (all under the 500ish dollar mark) that a lot of people seem to recommend, had ok horizontal and vertical. S-curve complete sticky useless crap.
This Silk little guy beat everything on the show floor up to 600 bucks. Obviously above that there was better tripods.
Bads: Head is not removable. Legs aren't the sturdiest, but not worst then the Manfrottos that were twice as expensive. I needed smth light.

It does not have a hook underneath so you cant put a weight on it. You might need to DIY smth (i will) to hang a bag of rocks or your lens bag for extra weight. Example: i was shooting a timelapse of downtown LA from a rooftop and the wind did move the camera around.

Just like a lot of people said, buy used glass. Its a lot of fun.
Dont know if its cool to post from another board but under this link

http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2710

towards the bottom of the page there is a poost buy AdamM. Fun read. There is also a massive vintage lens thread in here.

Take Perrone up on his offer to shop lenses for you. You will be saving money nd getting some really good stuff :)
 
I would just go t2i body only with a tamron 17-50 2.8 VC to start. That will cover you for almost all types of shots. Get a fluid head tripod too. Lived makes some cheap fluid head models that are ok.

Took the word right out of my mouth. This is exactly what you need, except I would opt for the new 60D. The flip out monitor will make low and high angle shots much easier. I spent a lot of time lately with my face on the pavement shooting low angles with the 550D.
 
Curveball!

Through a special connection I didn't realize I had, I have the chance to get either of the following:

- T2I body only ($711) + Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC ($444) = $1250
- T2I 18-55 kit ($810)
- 60D Body only ($990)
- 60D 18-135 kit ($1260)
- 60D Body only ($990) + Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC ($445) = $1435

Please dont hate me lol. This is a rare thing that I wasnt expecting. Anyway... given those 5 options, what would you guys choose? Keep in mind I can still order lenses separately (and even have this connection price match the lowest price from legit online vendors).

The only caveat to this is I have to pay state tax (8.25%), but I do get free next-day shipping...

Thanks for all your responses everyone, I've toiled over them and this decision more than you know!
 
I decided to pass on the 60D (again), for pretty much the same reasons. More money to put toward lenses and accessories and such. If the spark inside me for all this turns into a full-blown inferno, than I can always upgrade the body later on.

I ended up going with (summarized version):

- t2i with 18-55 kit lens
- Canon EF 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS USM
- Sigma 10-20 EX DG 4.0-5.6 HSM lens
- all Sigma EX UV filters.
- Slik EZ monopod w/ quick-release panhead
- Vanguard Alta+ 263AP aluminum tripod with 3-way magnesium alloy panhead
- Zeikos grip with Opteka 2000mAh batteries.

Thanks for all your help and advice everyone. I think I have a great setup to try my hand at real photography (and later cinematography). I'm pretty excited about it! :)
 
congrats. I wouldnt choose those lenses by any means BUT i hope u enjoy ur new baby. If u have 50-70 bucks laying around and want to try ur hand at manual vintage primes check out the supertakumar 50mm 1.4 http://www.vimeo.com/13410432

Darn good lens...not 2 much $

Or if u have $100 and dont feel brave enough for vintage yet...consider the canon 50mm 1.8 (nifty fifty). darn good lens...just have to get used to the focus ring. U really should get one fast prime in there and these 2 are good starts.
 
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I totally agree with Jambredz. That's a nice setup you have but to really get a feel for what these things can do, buy at least one piece of fast glass. You can get in there for $50-100 (including the adapter).

Enjoy your new setup!
 
I'm focusing on photography first... trying out angles, shots, framing, composition, focal lengths, etc etc. I like the idea of getting rid of the 18-55 kit lens down the road and getting a 24mm prime (since I wont have anything between 20 & 28 at that point).

These lenses were chosen purely for maximizing my dollar and being able to try everything from ultra wide to telephoto with at least decent quality optics and build. I think I did alright, and by this time next year (or sooner) I'll know more about what I want to replace them with. And more importantly, why. :)

Thanks again everyone, see you around!
 
I'm focusing on photography first... trying out angles, shots, framing, composition, focal lengths, etc etc. I like the idea of getting rid of the 18-55 kit lens down the road and getting a 24mm prime (since I wont have anything between 20 & 28 at that point).

These lenses were chosen purely for maximizing my dollar and being able to try everything from ultra wide to telephoto with at least decent quality optics and build. I think I did alright, and by this time next year (or sooner) I'll know more about what I want to replace them with. And more importantly, why. :)

Thanks again everyone, see you around!

If more people on this forum (and others) had this attitude, we'd see a LOT better films. Can't stress enough how much I support the way you are going about this. Refreshing to read.
 
I decided to pass on the 60D :)

I'd go for the articulating screen. I also read the 60D has audio level control.

From Canon:

The new EOS 60D camera's movie mode also includes manual controls for exposure as well as manual audio levels in 64 steps, much like the latest firmware update for the EOS 5D Mark II HD-SLR. Users can set audio levels on the rear menu screen before shooting begins; once recording is initialized, audio adjustments are not possible. In addition, Canon has added an electronic Wind Filter to the audio controls within the movie shooting menu.
 
So... my "time restriction" on ordering my camera came and went without an order being placed. Bad quotes, funds going missing, checks not clearing, etc... a real PITA. The order I said I placed was actually a shopping cart I finalized awaiting a CC swipe that never came.

So I ended up revisiting the whole purchase last week, which happened to be when the 60D launched. I read all about it more and more, and ended up getting a fantastic price quoted in writing for me that I could not pass up ($1245.99 for the 18-135 kit). I kept the Sigma 10-20 lens as well since it dropped about $40 while in my cart.

So, this is what I *actually* ordered... and it is all scheduled to be delivered tomorrow:

- Canon 60D w/ 18-135 3.5-5.6 IS UD lens kit
- Sigma 10-20 4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM lens w/ hood
- GSI equivalent of Canon EW-73B hood (for 18-135 lens)
- Sigma 77mm UV filter
- Sigma 67mm UV filter
- 2x Power2000 LP-E6 battery
- Dual LP-E6 battery charger
- Tamrac 5502 Explorer 2 (Blue) DLSR bag
- Off-brand mini-HDMI to HDMI cable
- 3x Transcend 16GB SDHC Class 6 cards
- Opteka wrist strap for DSLRs
- SLIK EZ monopod with panhead and quick release
- SLIK PRO 700DX Pro tripod with 3-way panhead & quick release
- SLIK Tripod\Monopod carrying case
- Dual LP-E6 battery charger with car adapter

I think I'll enjoy the larger, higher quality body more than anything else. (along with the articulating LCD, top LCD, and extra settings wheel). Anyway... I hope this doesn't put me back in Billy Bob status! :( The opportunity simply became available and I took advantage of it.

Thanks again for everyones assistance and advice.
 
60D was a good choice. I got the 7D when it first came out but if I were buying now I would choose the 60D over the 7D and the T2i.
 
Some updates for anyone who might care:

- The 60D is phenomenal, I love everything about it except for non-HD out while recording (though I dont even have a monitor to use and complain about missing that feature yet). The fact that I can get usable audio in camera (for events and such, not for film) is amazing, and the Zoom\splitter rig also makes it even more versatile for audio. I use the articulating LCD and the top LCD readout all the time and would miss them if they werent there. I've used a t2i and 7D since and while the 7D has its own advantages, I am glad I saved the money and got the 60D instead (or spent more instead of getting the t2i).
- The Power2000 batteries seem to hold about half the charge as the OEM Canon that came with the camera, I wouldnt recommend them. I'll try a different third party brand next.
- The dual LP-E6 charger however works like a charm, great accessory.
- The Opteka wrist strap lasted about 6 months... not bad for $5, but I doubt I'd purchase again.
- The Slik monopod is wobbly, but fine in pinch, and I'm looking to replace it (or drop the cash on a Glidecam instead)
- The Slik tripod however is most excellent for photos or stagnant video. Sturdy, versatile, and reliable for under $100, love it.
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwright84/ (if you care)

As for the lenses... I have outgrown the kit lens. It's nice and versatile and everything, but I've grown increasingly frustrated with it. I have also somewhat outgrown the Sigma 10-20. While I love the UWA, I hate not being able to really use it handheld except during the day. I will probably replace it with the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 sometime in the next year or so. Meanwhile I acquired up a 100mm f/2.8 Macro from a friend for free and have enjoyed it, but not enough to keep it. Soooo...

I have the following lenses on order to replace the kit lens and the 100mm macro as well as add some much needed vitality to my lens lineup:
- Sigma EX 30 1.4 HSM
- Sigma EX 70-200 2.8 HSM OS
- Canon EFS 17-55 2.8 USM IS
- Canon EF 85 1.8 USM

Also getting a BG-E9 grip (to find a use for those two Power2000 batteries) and a B&D Provista 7518 Tripod w/FM18 Head... so ya, cant wait! Overall I've received a lot of great advice and learned so much over the past couple months. Thanks DVX community for your portion of all of that.
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