T2i A Music Video Shot I did with a T2I...What do U Think???

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I know im gonna get ripped hard on some of the production because hey guess who was everything in the production, ME...I wanted to start making a rap sheet of work on my resume or even try by trial and error to exceed that next level and heres of course a way to do that...Make a video like this and get real feedback by people who can really careless about my feelings and just appreciate good work overall...
 
yeah... don't make excuses for your video. Let it stand on its own. No one cares if you shot it all yourself or not... if shooting it yourself means a lack of quality, don't shoot it yourself. You don't get a pass just because you didn't put in the time and effort to get a decent crew.

And if you know you're going to get ripped hard for the production quality, why ask for criticism? Why even show it to people? If you know it's bad, then what good does me telling you it's bad really do? We all have to start somewhere. But don't waste other people's time asking for criticism for footage you've already admitted is bad.
 
Well lets look at that...This site if im not mistaken is strictly professionals who know alot about film and the tech side about it (or so I thought)...Im not professional but learn what I can because im passionate about film and editing...I say get ripped more for the aspect of professional eyes seeing more things wrong with it then lets say a regular hip hop forum of rappers who dont know nothing about film...I got positive feed back from them but I wanted people who dig deeper into this side of the spectrum so dont try to shut me down and say basically u aint gonna feed this plus ur a gonna put me on blast for saying what I said...

So u can look at it as I dont want criticism because I lack a crew of people to help shoot this or because my ISO's arent perfect or I went over the 180 rule or I didnt do great with the cinematography lighting etc...but u gotta actually see it before u make a long winded rant on why im making excuses for things...All im saying is hey this is a different crowd so I know u guys will see things others missed but im letting u know ahead of time what wasnt available to me...

but thx for the feedback reguardless of what u were trying to do
 
This site if im not mistaken is strictly professionals who know alot about film and the tech side about it
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it WAS, before the army of newb DSLR jockeys came in and started flooding things with dubious information... like that one guy who "reviewed" an LED light and said in the review that he didnt know what CTO / CTB were...

but thats a different conversation entirely...

as far as your video goes. its really not bad for a first effort. i actually got through the whole thing without wanting to punch someone. which is more than i can say for most "hip-hop" videos people post here ; )

was the killer and the guy who got killed, the same guy?

there are places i would have used more light or less light or repositioned a light. and i think the variety of artistic graphic effects was a bit random and added no real value to the end product. but overall i think its as, or more watchable than most first efforts.

the one thing that bothered me was the whole thing looked soft. not out of focus soft. but old VHS soft. kinda muddy and lacked contrast. and i also wonder if black and white was the right choice for this? like maybe if youd done the narrative bits in color, then broke to black and white for his solo cutaways...
 
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it WAS, before the army of newb DSLR jockeys came in and started flooding things with dubious information... like that one guy who "reviewed" an LED light and said in the review that he didnt know what CTO / CTB were...
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It doesn't help that this is one of the first hits on google for anything filmmaking discussion related.

Regardless, I wasn't trying to be a jerk, easily THE best piece of advice any filmmaker ever can receive is, don't make excuses for your movie. You made it, let it stand on its own. If it's not good, and you know it's not good, don't show it to me... I don't give a damn what your circumstances were, we all have trouble on set... the only thing that matters when the lights go down is what's on the screen. If what you're presenting isn't the best you can possibly do, don't present it. And, what if I DO like your movie, but you've already told me how terrible it is? I'll probably decide it's terrible too.

The second best piece of advice any filmmaker can receive is... it's not about money. It's about effort. There's no reason you can't get a couple extra hands or even gear to help with your video. Use the internet. There's people all over the world who will come out and lend a hand and let you borrow their gear for free, if you just ask. It's more effort than just going out and doing it yourself, but filmmaking isn't a solo effort. If you don't have any money, put in more effort.
How should I critique something, when you already know its problems, and you've already stated many of the problems come from not putting in enough effort (i.e. doing it solo)? If I tell you you need softer light, and your response is "Yeah like I said, I didn't have the gear for that," then isn't that just wasting both of our time? Show us the best you can possibly do, then we'll be able to tell you how to do it better.

Again, not trying to be a jerk, just trying to give the best advice I can and hoping it doesn't fall on deaf ears. When someone gives a critique, it's to impart knowledge on how to do better. A critique on anything less than your best is worthless, because you already know how to do better... you just didn't.
 
I would agree that it isn't bad for a first effort. I also made it through the whole thing which usually doesn't happen for me. I would reiterate most of what wgzn said above. Always put some extra thought in all b&w and understand why you're making that decision. Understand that b&w needs to pop a little which requires some decent lighting. The singer didn't really sell the story to me. I don't quite know how to explain it but he just didn't appear to be felling the music or the role. It's your job as the director to make sure the talent can sell the story. At the end of the day, the audience will overlook some technical problems if it's a compelling story.
 
Thx for the feed...I wanna definitely improve for my second video (audio mixing wise and Visual wise)...The next ones about suicide and I wanna put alot more effort into Facial expressions to show my passion in the things im talking about and of course the lighting and camera shots...but thx for checking it out and giving feed...
 
Not bad for first effort. Design future videos knowing what you have to work with. Some of the compositions weren't quite right (lamp post, car). Trying moving the camera around before shooting to figure out the most interesting angles. You're going to have be able to light the car even in dark. Make sure all shots are properly exposed. Try to come up with a basic consistent look and avoid tossing in every visual filter (you've got film scratches, overlays, television looks, etc) Choose one if necessary and use that.

Focus on the design and then make sure you've got the lighting and composition to match.
 
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