Oh... so the sensor area is the only factor. Yes, people should DEFINITELY be listening to your advice. I'm out. Have fun.
BTW, the "win" thing was thrown in there to make that exact point.
7D vs 5D Mk ii - Now they've both got 24P/25P
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Oh... so the sensor area is the only factor. Yes, people should DEFINITELY be listening to your advice. I'm out. Have fun.
BTW, the "win" thing was thrown in there to make that exact point.
You keep posting that quote, unfortunately you aren't following his advice.
commanderspike
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I know it was Frost. It doesn't take a genius to work out what the point it was you were making, and I refute it.
Can't believe the bickering on this place sometimes. Can we please get back on topic?
I tried the 7D the other night and was amazed how low the noise levels were at ISO 6400. It clearly has improved noise reduction and sensor sensitivity despite having a denser pixel pitch.
As far as wide lenses go, probably the best wide zoom for versatility is the 15-85MM kit lens while another amazing option would be one of the 17mm L lenses. Expensive, but with the cost different as it is between the 5D and 7D you can afford to spend a bit more on lenses if you don't go the 5D route. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there is anything wider and faster than the Sigma 20MM F1.8 for the 7D?
I'm surprised you remembered. Actually, I only piped up on this thread because something deep in my psyche craves the sort of abuse only blantant arrogance can give me.
When does your 7D arrive? It'll be interesting to see what you think when you're hands on with it instead of speculating.
Stephen Mick
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You know what's really cool? Both the 7D and 5D will have 24p at some point.
Wasn't that what this thread was about a long time ago? Can't someone, somewhere, start a thread entitled "Focal Length Equivalents: the Cine vs. DSLR Deathmatch" and we can have these "crop factor" discussions in one f'ing place?
Wasn't that what this thread was about a long time ago? Can't someone, somewhere, start a thread entitled "Focal Length Equivalents: the Cine vs. DSLR Deathmatch" and we can have these "crop factor" discussions in one f'ing place?
Got it last night...had to drive 150 miles to get it but it's here on the desk in front of me. Battery is charged and I'll try to play with it tonight...lots of work to do this afternoon.
I'll post some footage later if I get to craving more abuse...
commanderspike
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Looks guys everyone is entitled to their way of thinking.
If you approach the 7D versus 5D debate from a 35mm motion picture lenser background, or work with people who do, then you are entitled to think of the 7D's sensor as the standard.
If you approach the 7D versus 5D argument from the DSLR community, 35mm stills background, photographic industry then you see the 5D sensor size as being the standard.
Then you choose your lenses based on that knowledge.
It really is that simple and I don't know why all the film guys like Kholi are getting so worked up about this 'outsider opinion' as being 'wrong'. To say it's wrong implies automatically that one way of thinking is better than the other, when is pertinently obvious from the DSLR orientated people's views on here that it isn't. Not everybody is approaching the DSLRs with 35mm motion picture terminology in mind, and when talking about two different DSLRs with different sensor sizes surely it's more relevant to use DSLR thinking?
Also, address someone who uses the other kind of terminology with some respect and not a load of abuse. There is no need for it. If I address a cinematographer on a job, I'd use their way of thinking. If I addressed a photographer on a shoot, I'd adopt their way of thinking. To not to that shows an inflexibility of mind, an arrogance and a 'my way is best' closed mindedness.
If you approach the 7D versus 5D debate from a 35mm motion picture lenser background, or work with people who do, then you are entitled to think of the 7D's sensor as the standard.
If you approach the 7D versus 5D argument from the DSLR community, 35mm stills background, photographic industry then you see the 5D sensor size as being the standard.
Then you choose your lenses based on that knowledge.
It really is that simple and I don't know why all the film guys like Kholi are getting so worked up about this 'outsider opinion' as being 'wrong'. To say it's wrong implies automatically that one way of thinking is better than the other, when is pertinently obvious from the DSLR orientated people's views on here that it isn't. Not everybody is approaching the DSLRs with 35mm motion picture terminology in mind, and when talking about two different DSLRs with different sensor sizes surely it's more relevant to use DSLR thinking?
Also, address someone who uses the other kind of terminology with some respect and not a load of abuse. There is no need for it. If I address a cinematographer on a job, I'd use their way of thinking. If I addressed a photographer on a shoot, I'd adopt their way of thinking. To not to that shows an inflexibility of mind, an arrogance and a 'my way is best' closed mindedness.
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