7D to replace dvx100b.. video..photo..?!?

R

RenegadeNY

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I've been away from shooting events for a few years.. looking to get back into it.

I have my dvx100b and all its gear sitting in a few pelican cases and now with the arrival of the 7D, I'm contemplating focusing on both photo and video via one piece of equipment.

This kinda addresses a few desires of mine...

1- Upgrade my dslr from a Rebel XT to a 7d
2- Moving up into HD since the dvx100b doesnt do HD

The evolution of dslrs doing HD video esp in 24fps/30fps 1080p is remarkable.
Most of us have seen the footage from the canons and its pretty impressive.

What are your thoughts on moving into videography using a dslr?
At that price point, I can run 2 7ds if need be and travel a lot lighter.

Most people associate a standard video camera looking device with proper videography. I wonder what the impact/impression would be on the client.

I'd appreciate anyones thoughts on the subject and the points I made.

Thanks!
R
 
i would get a 7d for stills and a small hd video camera for long form event shooting. then you can always use the 7d for shallow depth stuff, b-roll, etc. seems to me you'd want to have both. 7d will have the more filmic image. however the convenience of a video cam will be something you will want. audio alone will be so much better on a video cam.
 
I think you'll find you can shoot it all with the 7D if you're willing to either add a few things like a monitor, follow focus and one of the bolt on viewfinders.

Noah
 
Interesting.. I was unaware of the 12 min limit.. Will Canon address this in future firmware updates? Is this due to the size of the movie file as usual is/was the case with fat 32...?

I'd say this is a show stopper in respect to the video portion... I hope there is a resolution in the works.
 
The 12-minute limit is because that's about how much the codec can store in a 4GB file, and yes, due to using FAT32, it's limited to a 4GB file.

As for expecting it to be "fixed", don't. The 5D has been out for over a year, has received numerous firmware updates (including the breakthrough manual-controls update), and nowhere have they addressed the recording time limit. It may happen, you never know, but it's foolish to buy a product that doesn't do what you want, expecting it to change later. It's best to know what it does and what it doesn't do, and buy something that suits your needs now, as-is.
 
I agree with you 100% Barry. Its truly a shame though... it would've been awesome to have stills and >12 min video clips at that quality!!!

The least Canon can do at this point is release a firmware to handle cutting off the file at its limit and continuing a new file. This wouldn't be so bad if implemented properly and makes the files more manageable to work with.


I think I read that the Pana GH1 does that.. I might be wrong though..
 
I found this comment on dpreview..

"File size is determined in camera, and the length is due to EU import issues (in the EU, anything that records longer than 30 minutes is considered a camcorder and there are huge import duties. "
 
They really should move to ntfs by now. Both Mac and Linux can read & write to ntfs partitions in this day and age..

They use the ntfs-3g driver to successfully read and write NTFS data.

In terms of the cameras formatting Fat32 vs NTFS.. just a firmware upgrade should be required.

But now comes the question of do they really want to allow for this feature.. or will technology as always come piecemeal to milk the consumer. Will it take a Canon 8d to unveil >4gb file sizes or file splitting??
 
JVC faced this question with their HD100, and they actually sold two different models in the EU, the HD100 (with no firewire input) and the HD101 (with firewire input enabled). The HD100 was about $500 less, IIRC, because of the EU tax laws.
 
no different than using a tape and running that to capacity.. You'd have to be alert of time remaining.

a 32gb card would yield ~96 min of video.. assuming 4gb=12min. Carrying 3 or 4 cards is better than 5-6 mini dv tapes.

..yeah EU tax laws.. :) Is that tattooed on your forearm?? lol.. ;)
 
There is a second concession to the tax laws as well, which is that even if you record in SD mode, it will still shut off at 29 minutes and 59 seconds. Even if you had only used up one gig of space, it doesn't matter -- it will force the recording to stop at 29:59 to avoid the 30-minute tax implications.
 
Busting your chops mhood :)

Interesting fact Barry.. and I'd probably look upon 29min 59secs a bit more positive than 12 mins. We'll have to see what comes out of this.

The quality of the GH1 and its smoooooth lens is appealing as well... hmm.. loves me pana products too...
 
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