7D editing codec in windows

We all know Macs ultimate codec, prores, for editing video in Final Cut studio. It seem to provide stability in editing although consuming of course more space in hard disk.

I have run nothing but problems editing 7d:s material straight from the camera with Adobe Premiere: lots of program crashes, render-problems and so on. I have the latest drivers of all kind.

So what kind of good solutions have you found when editing 7d:s videos? Have you converted video first to some other format before editing? What program did you use for that?

Not that the editing itself has been painful enough, but when finalizing all night provides only rendering errors of somekind.

Your thoughs are really appreciated!

-Mike
 
Have a look at Cineform Neoscene. This should work well across all editors on Windows. Alternately, you can consider an editor that has it's own codec such as Edius or Avid. Either way will be much easier on your system than editing the native files form the camera.
 
Edius. Four editing suites in our facility use them. For PC it is stable reliable and predictable. Version 5 runs avchd better than 4.5.

For 4.5 i convert to canopus HQ as intermediate.
 
That Cineform sounds very good indeed. Ill try that immediatly when I got the trial version in my hands. Edius seem to be a very good choice too; having a additional video editing graphics gard must be good.

Thanks for your answers!

-Mike
 
+1 for neoscene. Hunt around on the net for coupon codes, you can usually get it for USD$100

Well worth every penny. Works brilliantly, and acually IMPROVES your footage when making the intermediate ( by intelligently up-sampling the chroma reoslution to 4:2:2) rather than hurting it. Also an excellent archiving codec.
 
@Screenforme - Cineform files are only huge if you are coming from highly compressed HD formats or SD. To those coming from high end HD or film, they are amazing small files... :) Go convert about an hour's worth of DPX files and see what you end up with...

@Eric Ferguson - I'd be very cautious about recommending ANY commercial codec for archival purposes. I tend to stick with ISO/SMPTE standards to ensure compatibility in the future.
 
avid DNxHD is one of the best visually lossless codecs, supports 8 and 10 bit , and its free, just download quicktime for windows and then DNxHD codec for windows. Also is a open standard, BBC has an open source project on development based on this codec , so the future compatibility is assured


regards
 
avid DNxHD is one of the best visually lossless codecs, supports 8 and 10 bit , and its free, just download quicktime for windows and then DNxHD codec for windows. Also is a open standard, BBC has an open source project on development based on this codec , so the future compatibility is assured


regards

I tried using DNxHD and while the footage looks great I get the issue where once placed in the premiere timeline it wont play in real time until rendered. Is that normal?
 
I tried using DNxHD and while the footage looks great I get the issue where once placed in the premiere timeline it wont play in real time until rendered. Is that normal?

I tried it on Premiere CS4 and unless I have anything else on top of it, it'd play in real time without rendering with just the clip on the timeline.
 
cineform prospect is a great intermediate..10 bit for more robust cc etc and i can run 3 tracks of vid each with fx in realtime.:love4:
 
make sure your quality is set to automatic for monitor window for realtime playback. moitoring in realtime for motion and timing is generally speaking, more important than a super accurate pixel for pixel visualization. when you want or need that you should be zooming in to 100% view and switch quality to full, or view via external realtime full quality monitoring hardware.
 
So I have a question about DnxHD as well. I downloaded and installed the PC package, but even after a reboot it does not show up in the settings in Media Encoder or Premiere. I must have missed a step? I'm on Vista 64bit.
 
So I have a question about DnxHD as well. I downloaded and installed the PC package, but even after a reboot it does not show up in the settings in Media Encoder or Premiere. I must have missed a step? I'm on Vista 64bit.

When exporting, you'd choose to export to Quicktime video, then click on the Codec list, you'd see it there...
 
I don't see it though. I guess I did something wrong? Is there more to installing it than just double clicking the .exe you download from Avid's site and running the installer?
 
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