7 or 5

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morgan_moore

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Im really confused I know own both most of my 5 footage has blown me away, the 7d has not

So which to use ?

Here is a test image
www.halfinchrails.com/hir/pics/7dgrabs/tone.jpg (160ISO)

IMO after carefully listining to barry, IMO they are both soft in terms of LPI

So how does one deal with soft footage ?

Well I have been sharpening the footage then adding film grain in FCP - this masks softness giving a more pleasant failure of resolution

Some thoughts..

25p is obviously a boon

Noise

I think the 7d is noisier so falls down on grading - and grading is a must to mask the soft footage

Aquiring focus

The DSLR lenses are extremely sensitive, there is something that makes aquisition of focus easier with the 5

no decent moitoring solution exists AFIAK

70-200

Is a common lens, reach is great with the 7d, DOF is amazing on the 5

Shooting open

Lenses are not good open, one can stop down a little with the 5

Breaking the codec

This is something I have not been able to test..

My theory is that simpler images reproduce better due to less information per frame, the 5d and simplify images with less DOF

My conclusion - confusion

My feeling that the 5d one will have a simpler image that is a little free-er of noise more gradable and more likely in focus and simpler less codec breaking

All of these minor issues add up to a magic ticket that just looks better to the typical viwer

720 and internet compression equalises them both

For complex wide images one should use the EX1 if you have one

I really dont know, I want the 7d to win because I can get easy PAL and flog the 5 keeping some cash - but feel it does not

S
 
wow its never ending. you have 3 excellent tools pick one or three and go shoot. everyone else is :thumbsup:
 
id choose 7D, (which id have to dump nikon and all my glass for, which i just might eventually). Mostly for the extra options, lower price etc...

I also happen to like the video qualty of to 7d over the 5dmkII
 
matt s. said:
wow its never ending. you have 3 excellent tools pick one or three and go shoot. everyone else is :thumbsup:
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I have three but need to dump one of them for financial reasons

I do do certainly shoot whenever Im not doing paid stills, Im getting paid motion now and want to get it right before I take peoples money

Thoughts at the moment

Im thinking 7d

the 7d - I need to learn to work with the small sensor, that is longer lenses tighter compositions, wider aps, - bring on the 50 1.4 and shoot it at 2

I think some of my issues have been aquiring focus - those lenses are so sensitive on the small chip, (because you move the barrel less) I need to retrain my hands and investigate a gear down of the FF

720p 25p

This is what I will output and describe my capability as

This covers focus errors and softness of the 7d (and 5d)

EX1 - I will use it for deep focus when appropriate

Monitoring

I need some bad ass monitor action to pull focus, Small HD or the new 720p marshall

That cam (7d) is beyond brutal to focus

S
 
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