60D You got my interest now

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draven4

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Alright after reading through some threads I finally caught interest in the 60d. Seems like a better option for shooting video than the 7d.

Anyone have anything to share with their experiences with this camera?
Can my 7d lenses be used with it?
Can the new Z-finder I just bought be used too?

It uses SD cards. I like compact flash better but don't know if I believe they are better just because the little build of the card seems sturdy or if it doesn't really matter between SD and compact flash in terms of reliability. I can only say from experience that I've had a SD card corrupt on me where I've never had a problem with a compact flash. With that said it was a cheap SD card.

Lastly I know people are going to say as a still camera the 7d is better and has a better body build but I'm just saying in term of shooting video.

The things that appeal to me are
1) flip out screen
2) manual audio control
3) looks like it shoots all the same formats as the 7d and has all the same ISO settings

With that said does the 60d have editable picture styles like the 7d. If not that might be a problem for at least people like me who like to get the film stock look in camera with Picture Styles.

Look forward to hearing from you all.
 
I've just traded in my 550d/2ti for a 60D. I think the only negative compared to the 7D is the hdmi output dropping resolution when you go into record. Manual kelvins, manual audio levels, intermediate isos and the flip screen make this a great camera for me. Yes, you get the editable picture styles. Try the transcend class 10 sdhc cards - cheap and working great for me. Will try using my z-finder on it tomorrow, but i can see myself selling that and getting one of the new 'monitor x' viewfinders over at jag35. Try this link -

http://jag35.com/new/products/monitor-x/
 
7d and 5d

7d and 5d

60d is a great addition to the canon line up,

but besides the audio and lcd option, the 60d is still s consumer camera,

while the 7d and 5d a prosumer cameras, which means the build quality is going to be better

aluminum body as oposed to plastic...

my 2 cents
 
What are you shooting, and do you use it for stills? if so, what do you shoot? please elaborate on what you use it for. I could easily sell/trade the T2i's for 60D's, but for video in what 'I' shoot, the T2i is more than enough camera at a perfect price. I could have gone with twin 7D's for maybe $200 more (all 3 T2i's have batt grips and extra batteries) but 3 spare angles is worth more to me.

I use 2 XH A1's and 3 T2i's for TV/web/mobile ads, (use the T2i's and XH A1's for video ONLY, T2i's for B-cam rolls or low light only). I do NOT shoot stills with the T2i's. I dont do anything but B-cam rolls with the T2i's.
 
As stated in my opening question I was asking everyone to analyze this discussion with the camera as a video camera and not for it's still capabilities and the body build as I had mentioned mainly because that was obvious and by eliminating that we can all look at what is best as a video camera between the both.

Thanks for asking though. I mainly am concerned about shooting video. I bought the 7d I have now to use as a video camera. Now after looking at the 60d it has more of what I want than the 7d. Just wanted to see if others had negative experiences or thought it turned out great for them. So far it seems to be great.
 
speedjunkie said:
60d is a great addition to the canon line up,

but besides the audio and lcd option, the 60d is still s consumer camera,

while the 7d and 5d a prosumer cameras, which means the build quality is going to be better



aluminum body as oposed to plastic...

my 2 cents
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You are incorrect, the 60d is a prosumer camera as stated by Canon themselves. Also use the 60d first and you will take your statement back.
 
Basically, the 60D is a better camera for video. Canon even stated that this was their camera optimized for video with a flip out screen and manual audio levels. The 7D is great, but it is first and foremost a sports shooters camera. Video does not take advantage of the 7D features at all. In fact, the double processors unnecessarily kills the battery. The 60D lasted much longer than the 7D shooting video for a wedding. All in all, I put my vote in for the 60D. Haven't been disappointed in it yet, and I've shot with a 7D as well. Articulating screen is a lifesaver!
 
Just a question, I have been reading that the 60D has interchangeable focus screens. What does this mean exactly and is it useful for the video shooter?

I havn't been able to find much googling.

Also I have a 60D coming in the mail tomorrow or Thursday, will be mounting it on my CPM cage and what not, will post up pics when its all done.
 
Sure Shott said:
Just a question, I have been reading that the 60D has interchangeable focus screens. What does this mean exactly and is it useful for the video shooter?
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I'm not completely sure, but I think the focusing screen has to do with the viewfinder. Since video uses live view, it won't make a difference.
 
check out KatzEye opticsfor focusing screens for 'othe' cameras that dont have OE available focusing screens; i have split prism focusing screens in ALL my DSLR's (waiting for ones for my T2i's) also magnifying eyepieces; it REALLY helps manually focus before going into video mode.

a focusing screen will NOT aid in live view composure or manual focus however.
 
canon needs a correctio

canon needs a correctio

life4eva said:
You are incorrect, the 60d is a prosumer camera as stated by Canon

themselves. Also use the 60d first and you will take your statement back.
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I did see that video where they(canon) rate the 7d and 5d a proffessional Camera and the 60d a prosumer, but , he did not understand the meaning of what he himself was saying...

at the price of 1300 bucks its a Between professional and Consumer, but a Prosumer is not the in between. to me a prosumer is a Profesional Market, the 60d is not professional grade , but consumer grade with some pro aspects... that is why its 1300.

the 7d is 100% professional dslr

now in the hand of the professional the 60 is very good option to the t2i and 7d for video.
 
also I have tested the 60d, but after having the 7d for a year and all the add ons, its difficult to justify the 60d . its ok,
 
life4eva said:
You are incorrect, the 60d is a prosumer camera as stated by Canon themselves. Also use the 60d first and you will take your statement back.
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http://vimeo.com/15549122 his deffinition of PROSUMER very specific to the 60d, but in the big picture its still consumer that can be used by pro's...

so dont think its professional build like the 7d or 5d. neways,, i put too much into this reply, canon rocks
 
i would peg the 60D as consumer, same with the T2i. its a plastic body and lens mount. Nothing wrong with it, but the 7D offers a much higher burst rate and full HDMI out while recording. i cannot stress enough how critical that is if it is to be used as a main camera. i know the 5D MkII doesnt output HD during record; for video i would never buy a 5D Mk II for that reason alone (and price is a consideration as well). The 60D does video NO BETTER than the T2i; yes the top LCD is great, yes more ISO and WB options are great, and im sure to some people the articulated LCD is a huge selling point, but generally speaking you can do perfectly fine without them; i would gladly trade the articulated LCD, the top LCD, expanded ISO settings, and expanded WB options for just the full HD out during recording.

If you are talking about video recording with it as an only/main camera, i would highly recommend the 7D over the T2i (i have 3 btw) or 60D. I have not taken more than 30 or 40 stills with the T2i's; they are b-cams. If i were to go with an HDSLR as a main camera, i would absolutely take either my GF's 7D or rent one, i would NOT take the T2i or a 60D. I would also not even consider a 5D Mk II, for the same reasons plus i really could care less about low light or full frame; we have superwides and lots of lights. i do not believe we have shot anything above ISO 400 or so for work, so all the high ISO stuff i could care less about. I usually shoot at IS) 200-400 for stills too.

And frankly who cares what a company says when marketing a camera? canon/nikon/sony all state their point and shoots can take pics on par with 'professional' cameras; yes any camera theoretically can. does that make them ALL 'professional'? there really isnt a definitive cutoff point, but IMO, a professional camera has to have a few features the 60D is lacking. the 100% VF is great, but also lacking is AF microadjustments; that was single handedly THE BEST feature of my D300.


I would completely ignore both the nikon D7000 and canon 60D; they are a transitional generation; out of all the HDSLR's, the 7D is the most comprehensively well set up as a primary camera. The T2i's can be a pain with regards to focusing without a FF when recording, even when we use the 8.9" LCD's. With the 7D and the 8.9" LCD at 1:1 pixel ratio, its so easy to nail focus and pull properly. The 60D and D7000 still put out SD during record.
 
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No problem. The 7d and 60d basically out out the same image quality and in the correct hands these tools can deliver a professional project. I think we get to caught up in the terms though as even a t2i is an excellent camera and can bring beautiful motion picture as well. Personally I don't even care what people think is pro or consumer, all I know is that these cameras provide an excellent image and people pay money for that..... That's all that matters to me , so people can keep arguing all they want there's money to be made.
 
life4eva said:
No problem. The 7d and 60d basically out out the same image quality and in the correct hands these tools can deliver a professional project. I think we get to caught up in the terms though as even a t2i is an excellent camera and can bring beautiful motion picture as well. Personally I don't even care what people think is pro or consumer, all I know is that these cameras provide an excellent image and people pay money for that..... That's all that matters to me , so people can keep arguing all they want there's money to be made.
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agreed, but the T2i's IQ is identical to the 7D as well as far as i can tell. dont get me wrong, i would rather have 3 60D's over 3 T2i's, but i wont pay for it. its really arguing over little things anyways. Im waiting for the D400 and 5D MkIII to come out, ill likely dump the 3 T2i's and pick up a pair of used 7D's from people planning on getting a 5D MkIII (my GF included) and inherit her 7D as well.
 
I think a lot of consideration has to do with what you need. Some people need a 7 inch monitor to correctly judge focus etc, whereas some people do just fine with the 3 inch. Note: This is not aimed at anyone in particular- I have seen various people mention that their eyes are not good enough to work with the 3 inch and that an external monitor is necessary. Owning a T2i I have had no issue using the screen on it to focus. However having to get down on the ground can be a pain to get the low shots. Especially when your shooting in a cow pen, as I did just the other day.

As far as the audio, for many people it may come in handy. I have listened to some tests using a lav mic straight into the camera and for corporate clients that quality would be totally fine. Not every situation allows for separate audio recording or even needs it. In these situations that audio control will be fantastic. As a professional working in film and television I know what my needs are and how I feel most comfortable shooting. And I think that, above all of the which gear is better discussion is what you should think about. If you enjoy shooting with it and it does the job, pick the one that makes your life happiest as you do it. Now had they given the 60D HDMI out, I think there wouldnt be any question about which camera for video. Because for us video shooters it is the only thing I can think of that the 7d has over the 60D.
 
Zissou said:
i would peg the 60D as consumer, same with the T2i. its a plastic body and lens mount.
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Actually, the lens mount on all Canon EOS cameras are made of the same thing. From T2i to 7D.

Zissou said:
If you are talking about video recording with it as an only/main camera, i would highly recommend the 7D over the T2i (i have 3 btw) or 60D. I have not taken more than 30 or 40 stills with the T2i's; they are b-cams. If i were to go with an HDSLR as a main camera, i would absolutely take either my GF's 7D or rent one, i would NOT take the T2i or a 60D. I would also not even consider a 5D Mk II, *for the same reasons* plus i really could care less about low light or full frame; we have superwides and lots of lights. i do not believe we have shot anything above ISO 400 or so for work, so all the high ISO stuff i could care less about. I usually shoot at IS) 200-400 for stills too.
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What reasons do you speak of? The 7D and 60D have the exact same video, but the 60D has the articulating screen and manual audio controls. Admittedly, they can be resolved by using an external monitor and secondary audio system, but even the battery on the 7D depletes quicker due to the dual processors. You don't need dual processors for video at that bit rate. As a primary video camera, I don't see any advantage for the 7D over the 60D.
 
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