60d KIT for filming

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krizard

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Hi, I would like to introduce myself to this community(its my 1st post), i am a motion designer and vfx artist who lives in Africa ,Mozambique.

I'm going to buy the canon 60d , mainly for video shooting, I'm in a very low budget and I have some things in mind to buy, but i would like to hear your opinions and advices...

lens
now i only have about 2000usd to spend on lens, so i was going for the canon 24-70mm f/2.8 L , and the sigma 50mm f/1.4.
Winch ones you guys think are the best suited for video?I will need to shoot on low light conditions.

audio
I don't understand a lot about audio recording but as am just filming music video clips, i think i only need some gear to get a reference of the audio, but with mid quality.

camera movement
again i have no info at all, but i was thinking about this one "Cinevate Inc CIDSLR000031 DSLR Shoulder Mount with Offset Kit"
and
Cinevate Inc AT10TL0035 DSLR Slider with Legs (35") ( I'm just going for those 2 cause i saw somewhere on the web i think it was "the stillmotion gear list")
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lighting
2*lowel pro light 250 watt halogen light

other
Reversible Blue/Green MATT Screen for Chroma Key - 12 x 12'

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so guys I don't understand a thing about shooting video , so i would like to hear your advices about all that gear and what you guys would suggest , again i am newbie so i would like to spend the lower i am able to ...
Thank you in advance.
 
LENS

As I think, that the 60D is an APS-C, meaning a crop sensor, I'd go with a 35mm lens, giving you effectivley 50mm. Samyang 35mm F1.4 is a good bet!
Canon 24-70mm is a very nice, versatile lens! People also think that Carl Zeiss are nice!

Audio

Tascam DR100 and a Rode NTG2 or even VideoMic Pro is a nice combo! Tascam DR100 gives you loads of controls over your audio and is much better built than the H4N. Also has a little bit better preamps.

Camera Movement

For a Rig, Zacuto, Cinevate, Redrock, and even Gini are very nice! You should be good with all of these manufacturers!

Slider wise, Id say get a pocket dolly! If you have the money, get the philip bloom version! There is a reason for that, that they sell out in 4 minutes when they are released :)

Lighting

Redheads are a good bet! Lowel lighs are regarded as very nice! If you have the money, ARRI!

Other

Everything you can find as greenscreen seems fine! Some stuff better than other! You can normally go by: "The higher the price, the better quality"

And as you are a newbie, dont worry about what I said now! that is the most important thing! Dont spend so much money on everything now! Get you Canon 60D, get a lens and shoot some video!

If you decide you need more, get the rest!

-Phil
 
is the samyang 35mm f 1.4 the same as the rokinon 35mm f.14??
cause when i search for the samyang on websites that sell stuff, it wont find, but some times it finds the rokinon 35mm F1.4, and on google images, the look the same.

thanks for all the help
 
Samyang and Rokinon are the same thing.

Forget the Samyang. The Samyang doesn't relay info (like apeture) back to the camera due to a lack of a electronic connection (this is why they are priced the way they are).

For lenses, if you have $2000USD to spend, get the Tokina 11-16mm for your wides, the Sigma 30mm f1.4 (or Sigma 24mm f1.8, or Sigma 28mm f1.8) for your 50mm FOV equiv., and the Canon 50mm f1.8 for your telephotos (or your medium shots if you're a DoF junkie) - you can also pick up the Canon 50mm f1.4 if you want a more solid build. Also, the Canon 85mm f1.8 is good value for money ($420 last time I checked).
 
Also, rigs are a complete waste of money in my opinion. I've owned both RedRock and Zacuto rigs, and regretted buying into the whole rig-craze. Nothing beats my tripod for controlled environment shooting, and my monopod for run-and-gun shooting.
 
Jean Dantes said:
Samyang and Rokinon are the same thing.

Forget the Samyang. The Samyang doesn't relay info (like apeture) back to the camera due to a lack of a electronic connection (this is why they are priced the way they are).

For lenses, if you have $2000USD to spend, get the Tokina 11-16mm for your wides, the Sigma 30mm f1.4 (or Sigma 24mm f1.8, or Sigma 28mm f1.8) for your 50mm FOV equiv., and the Canon 50mm f1.8 for your telephotos (or your medium shots if you're a DoF junkie) - you can also pick up the Canon 50mm f1.4 if you want a more solid build. Also, the Canon 85mm f1.8 is good value for money ($420 last time I checked).
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so you think those lens will give me the possibility to shoot in low light conditions???
what about the lens i suggested the 24-70mm f2.8 L?? cause i saw a bunch of people that where saying that the "L" are the best lens for image quality.And the other lens you suggested have the same quality as the L??? or the suggestion was based on my low budget?

thank you...:thumbup:
 
Jean, what you are saying is not true! The Sigmas are completley useless, compared to the Samyang/Rokinon 35mm F1.4's

Why is that?

They might not have electric contacts, but they are much better. You have an on lens aperture ring, to change your aperture during video shooting. You can declick the aperture ring, so you can smoothly change from one aperture to another! Costs only 100 max.
You don't have auto focus, you dont have breathing! This lens beats the sigma in any aspect, when it comes to video!

I agree, the Sigma is better for photo, due to beeing able to auto focus and you can use all the automatic setting on your camera.

If you are shooting video though, the Samyang is your best bet for the price! krizard, don't listen to Jean, you will love it :D :D

I have it and its great. Very very beefy focus ring, smooth focus action and a good throw. Cristal clear glass. Matches the L lenses! It might be a little bit soft wide open, but the Sigmas are even worse!

If you want to read a review, comparing the Samyang/Rokinon to L lenses and others, look here: http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?test=obiektywu&test_ob=297

As Yoda would say: You not be dissapoint!
 
I believe canon also makes a 28mm 1.8? I'd pick that up over a 35mm. 24-70 L is great I think in terms of versatility. you'll want a 2nd lens thats below 20mm to go along with it, since 24mm isnt very wide on a APS-C.
 
Jean Dantes said:
Also, rigs are a complete waste of money in my opinion. I've owned both RedRock and Zacuto rigs, and regretted buying into the whole rig-craze. Nothing beats my tripod for controlled environment shooting, and my monopod for run-and-gun shooting.
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As much as I'd like to say, "Whaaaat?! You're crazy!" I'd have to agree with you. We have the Cinevate DSLR rig here at work, and it's more of a hassle than anything else if you're wanting to change out lenses multiple times (BUT that comes from having to use the "long lens support" when we use the 70-200 2.8). It's cumbersome, the knobs hurt your fingers to loosen / tighten (which you'll need to do a lot), AND it comes with the 30cm rails when you CLEARLY need the 45's minimum for all of those pieces. This doesn't even cover how heavy the beast is.

Now their slider, on the other hand, is pretty awesome!
 
will those lens at an F of 1.4 like the rokinon 35mm, and the canon 85mm F1.8 allow me to shoot at night with low light?
 
If you shoot with pretty much any lens at 1.4 or 1.8, you will get great lowlight performance!
The lower your F number, the better the low light will be!

The lower the F number, the harder it is to focus though! Also, the lower the F number, the shallower your image/depth of field!
 
Phil_UK said:
LENS

As I think, that the 60D is an APS-C, meaning a crop sensor, I'd go with a 35mm lens, giving you effectivley 50mm. Samyang 35mm F1.4 is a good bet!
Canon 24-70mm is a very nice, versatile lens! People also think that Carl Zeiss are nice!
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31.25mm on APS-C equals 50mm on FF. So 30mm is closer and I would definitelly go with Sigma 30/1.4. Great quality and a bit wider which will be plus for music videos.

The "kit to own" now for APS-C cameras seems to be:

Tokina 11-16/2.8
Canon 17-55/2.8 IS
Sigma 30/1.4
Canon 50/1.8 or 50/1.4
Canon 85/1.8

The IS lens is out of your budget right now so just get the four others. If you wan't to save some money you can leave the 50mm out because in my opinion it's the least useful lenght from those lenses on APS-C cameras.

For stabilizers get Manfrotto 701HDV video head with Manfrotto legs that fit your needs (both are cheap but good quality). For handheld stuff build your own Figrig
 
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