5DmkIII movies are not smooth

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hepler

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I just purchased my 5dmkIII and it is a great upgrade to the mkII but all of my .mov have a jerky look. I have it in All-I 16:9 and I have tried 4 different cf cards. from the lexar 400x professional 32g, the delkin 500x 32 which I use in my XF300 and this sample video which was shot on the Lexar pro 600x cf card. I just can't get any clip to be smooth. I have brought them into FCPX and exported them in various types from a straight export to you tube compression, 1080 to sd. I hope it is something simple and not the camera. Anybody else with this type of experience. I am on a Quad core mac desktop, with 16 gigs of ram, and none of the other cameras have had this. Any experience would be great. This is a simple pan of the flower bed and it has at least 3 little jerks in it in a 4 sec clip. I just uploaded it straight out of the camera to youtube so I don't know if it will show up or not.
Thanks
 
You probably know this, Of course a high shutter speed will make jerky looking pans if its to high, If your shooting 24 frames, it should be around 1/48th or on a dslr 1/50th. You can go up to 1/60th but you have to pan very slow about 7-10 seconds for a full frame.
 
Yeah, it looks like you're shooting outdoors, and if you're not using ND filters, you are using high shutter speeds to compensate, which translates into jerky motion.
 
I was kind of operating on the assumption he knows better than to do that, but maybe not. If not shutter speed I guess it could be related to that MK3 codec.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the replies, and i apologize for not giving enough info. It was on a tripod, 1/50th shutter speed, f5.6, 70-200l, stablization turned off, and lens set to 70mm,

It was out side but early in the morning and no ND. I shot 4 different durations and just loaded this one up so it would be a little faster. I will upload a 10 sec pan. In all of them especially on the full version there is a lot of jerky frames. It almost looks like it drops a frame, or the cf card doesn't keep up or there is a glitch in the firmware or something.
any thoughts would be great, I don't want to have to send this off to canon.
 
I havent tried to play it in vlc, I will. Quick time or in final cut they look the same. Here is a link where you can view or even download the original clip straight out of the camera. I would love to hear if they are jumpy on someone elses system. I tried it on my laptop as well and they look jumpy there as well
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39249867/KR8A3834.MOV
 
And here is a longer clip uploaded to you tube, it is a different clip, not just a longer cut of the first. These were brought into fcpx and they look very jumpy, I just use the "share" (i hate that name for export, but that is another discussion) and use the you-tube selection. So nothing has been done to them other than an export.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX2AvDxRjzo&feature=plcp
 
Maybe you should have made the longer clip available for download. I downloaded the shorter clip and its very hard to see the glitches. I have to have my eyes peeled. I played it in VLC on PC. However the longer clip on youtube is very obvious. This certainly is not a high shutter issue. Do you have the latest firmware? I dont see anyone complaining about this so maybe this is just your camera. I dont have a 5dm3 so I cant tell you.
 
Hmm, that second clip does look a bit jumpy...

I'm having a hard time believing it could be the camera though, I just can't see how it could jump frames like that without some kind of "write speed error". I'm no technical expert but I think if the card can't keep up with the frames the camera throws up an error during recording. Of course anything is possible...

Is it possible to shoot a short pan and upload the actual file from the CF card? That would eliminate The FCP "export" to youtube as a possible issue.
 
New_Zealand,
Yes it is similar to your youtube, but my is a less consistent. Your footage isn't smooth but it seems like it is consistently not smooth throughout the clip. Mine is jumpy in different places but they do have a similar look. Did you do something to "fix" yours? Is it a setting, what?

thanks
 
I did look at it frame by frame, I can't see anything out of the normal. I did burn a dvd just to see if it was my computer or something, maybe my graphic card is the trouble. The DVD is jumpy as well. So I don't know
 
I did try running it though Vegas and that didn't help any.

I have decided to take the 2 day Canon Boot Camp it is a hands on class. I receive a lot of great info on this forum but I need info much faster and more on topic without the guess work.

Since I have decided to use the 5d mkiii on my next film shoot in New Zealand sometime after the first of the year I got to learn a lot of stuff fast. The class is being taught by people using the 5d in making films and Tv shows. They will show me everything that is needed to know on making a film with this camera, all the setting, downloading it for editing, sound etc... I'm one of those people that learns much faster hands on then reading. I will be taking my own note that I can refer back to if need be. The best part is both my 5d and laptop will be set up for filming during the class so when I go home I will be able to move forward in filming without the guess work - OR at least I HOPE!

This will be one of the topic that I will find the answer for and will let you know what they say.
 
You have never used any DSLR or a 5D to make any kind of short? Sorry just wondering if this is your first DSLR most people start with a rebel line and move up just curious :)
New_Zealand said:
I did try running it though Vegas and that didn't help any.

I have decided to take the 2 day Canon Boot Camp it is a hands on class. I receive a lot of great info on this forum but I need info much faster and more on topic without the guess work.

Since I have decided to use the 5d mkiii on my next film shoot in New Zealand sometime after the first of the year I got to learn a lot of stuff fast. The class is being taught by people using the 5d in making films and Tv shows. They will show me everything that is needed to know on making a film with this camera, all the setting, downloading it for editing, sound etc... I'm one of those people that learns much faster hands on then reading. I will be taking my own note that I can refer back to if need be. The best part is both my 5d and laptop will be set up for filming during the class so when I go home I will be able to move forward in filming without the guess work - OR at least I HOPE!

This will be one of the topic that I will find the answer for and will let you know what they say.
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I only used the t3i for a few low light shots on my film Tukino the rest was shot on the Panny.

The 5d will be my first real adventure with it. When ever I get a new camera I usually do a few short films to get the bugs worked out. This time around I'm over loaded with work and on a time crunch so the class will be my major training. They also have it set up that the class shoots a short film for training purposes so a big plus.

When I get back from the class I have a short 5 minute film that I hope to be filming on weekends before I head into the bigger project. With the knowledge that I receive from the class I should be able to move smoothly. I always love the adventure to do something on the run and gun the next camera will more then likely be the FS700 or maybe the Red. But never can tell I might really like using the 5d and will stick with it for quite sometime. One thing for sure it will make traveling overseas so much easier then dragging the big gear around.
 
Sounds awesome good luck sir wish I was you =)
New_Zealand said:
I only used the t3i for a few low light shots on my film Tukino the rest was shot on the Panny.

The 5d will be my first real adventure with it. When ever I get a new camera I usually do a few short films to get the bugs worked out. This time around I'm over loaded with work and on a time crunch so the class will be my major training. They also have it set up that the class shoots a short film for training purposes so a big plus.

When I get back from the class I have a short 5 minute film that I hope to be filming on weekends before I head into the bigger project. With the knowledge that I receive from the class I should be able to move smoothly. I always love the adventure to do something on the run and gun the next camera will more then likely be the FS700 or maybe the Red. But never can tell I might really like using the 5d and will stick with it for quite sometime. One thing for sure it will make traveling overseas so much easier then dragging the big gear around.
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New_Zealand said:
Is it like this? This is just footage from the camera and not put though Vegas. Shooting on the 5d mkiii from a tripod shooting on I think it was the 70-200mm is ii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AgSdt-81Qs
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Are you using a fluid head? That move needs to be smoothed out before you can Analise what the camera is doing right or wrong.
But the earlier test you showed with jumping frames looks like a real problem, so you better find out if the camera has a flaw while under warranty.
The hard edge vertical line strobe is typical with these cameras and any hard edge vertical lines when panned across the frame too fast without motion blur. It's just the limitations of the media you have to work around or avoid. Vertical lines will always strobe when you pan at the wrong speed even when shot in 35mm film. Slowing your pan or possibly slowing your frame rate to soften the hard edges and give then motion blur would help. Just keep testing and you will get where you need to go.
 
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Hey Ruben don't wish you were me just yet - let see if I learn anything from this Canon class LOL It might be just a huge waste of $$$$$$ if I come out of the class no more smarter then I went in LOL.

If you were saying that you wish you were me due to me saying I have tons of work well it isn't tons of film work, I work with the dead to see why they are dead so it isn't real good - or at least being on my table isn't good.
 
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