5D MKIII specs
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I never thought the Canon XHA1 was that sharp to begin with. And the Canon hv20 is not considerably sharper than the 7d. And that camera was praised for it's look just a couple of years ago. Sony cams before the EX1 were not that sharp either like the V1 or Z1. They had a bunch of extra sharpening added in. They actually look quite bad nowadays. Even the new ones, like the Z5 is even quite bad when one has gotten used to DSLR footage. Which is quite funny. I was blown away how horrible they looked after a long time with DSLR shooting. No dynamic range, horrible sharpening artifacts and huge amounts of noise. No aliasing was cool though.
The only real thing that has spoiled people is apparently the GH2
The only real thing that has spoiled people is apparently the GH2
Zephyrnoid
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i really do have to look into the GH2 or whatever succeeds it. On the subject of absolute sharpness. One little point. It's not all that important to the narrative.
When was the last time that you watched a movie on the big screen and said to yourself, "Ouch! That CU of the villains was just wasn't so perfectly sharp" or whatever?
Moire, Jello Effect, Color Key ability, smooth zoom, follow focus,Clean compression or uncompressed out- are what make the difference to me. How close are these cameras to meeting my criteria:
Nikon D800
5D MKIII
Panasonic G2
When was the last time that you watched a movie on the big screen and said to yourself, "Ouch! That CU of the villains was just wasn't so perfectly sharp" or whatever?
Moire, Jello Effect, Color Key ability, smooth zoom, follow focus,Clean compression or uncompressed out- are what make the difference to me. How close are these cameras to meeting my criteria:
Nikon D800
5D MKIII
Panasonic G2
Zephyrnoid
Veteran
And yet someone stated that the much ballyhooed sharpness of the GH2 is merely a perceived edge resolution via bumped up contrast trick. That would make Color Key bad with this camera.The only real thing that has spoiled people is apparently the GH2
Is that a statement shared by others that know this camera? I have not touched it.
Ian-T
Veteran
It’s an exaggeration by some folks. The issue of false detail really only happens with certain Panasonic lenses that purposely sharpens the image as a result of lens correction on their wide angle lenses.
But the “little cam that could”, regardless of how much false sharpness shows up, actually resolves higher than all the other DSLRs and some higher end camcorders. It ends up having an uber sharp look which contributes to that “video-like” look. BUT ..put on some manual lenses…problem solved.
But the “little cam that could”, regardless of how much false sharpness shows up, actually resolves higher than all the other DSLRs and some higher end camcorders. It ends up having an uber sharp look which contributes to that “video-like” look. BUT ..put on some manual lenses…problem solved.
C-Mac
Well-known member
I never thought the Canon XHA1 was that sharp to begin with. And the Canon hv20 is not considerably sharper than the 7d. And that camera was praised for it's look just a couple of years ago. Sony cams before the EX1 were not that sharp either like the V1 or Z1. They had a bunch of extra sharpening added in. They actually look quite bad nowadays. Even the new ones, like the Z5 is even quite bad when one has gotten used to DSLR footage. Which is quite funny. I was blown away how horrible they looked after a long time with DSLR shooting. No dynamic range, horrible sharpening artifacts and huge amounts of noise. No aliasing was cool though.
The only real thing that has spoiled people is apparently the GH2
I absolutely loved my HVX200a w/Letus Extreme and Nikon AIS combo. The aesthetic quality of the image was absolutely beautiful for me and I never minded the lack of sharpness. However the light weight, simplicity, and lack of needing to over come the light loss, drew me away from the HVX/Letus rig and into the Canon 5D camp, but man was I nervous about the aliasing and moire issues... I am very happy that Canon has addressed these issues... would I like more, sure, but I'm happy, I'll put the 5DMKIII to work right away and sell my 5DMIIs. I like the FF of the Canon, but if Panasonic decided to come out with an S35 with the HVX color and aesthetic quality and 4:2:2, I'd be all over it. I know people will point out the AF100, but I have SLR FF lenses and don't want to deal with the 2x field of view shift on my lenses and I'm not feeling like dropping money on a new set of lenses.
Also, I never really used it much, bought a Canon HV200 as a 4th camera for whatever and I hated it, LOL. I still have it as a VCR for all my old minDV tapes, if I ever need to go back, never do, but just in case.
Chris
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maranfilms
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The gh2 is much harder to get a clean key with than say the t3i. I dont know why, but just my experience. Although software may have something to do with that. It may be the Canon plays nicer with Adobe ultra than Pani. Thats not to say you can't get a nice clean key with the gh2, I have seen some really nice stuff. I just haven't figured it out myself yet. The gh2, needed a close to perfect lit green screen, as where the Canon keys out with a not so good lit screen. Again, I dont know why.
Every frame out of hacked GH2 is like a JPEG still downscaled to 1080.
There is nothing "perceived" about that.
It really is poor man's RED at 1080 resolution wise.
It's all perception man, the 5dmk3 resolves 4k you just can't see it
Samuel H
Major Contributor
false, but close: it only resolves $3.5KIt's all perception man, the 5dmk3 resolves 4k you just can't see it
Terry_Lasater
All about the Caption
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Nice.
Zephyrnoid
Veteran
Thanks fellow HV20 alum
! Any leads to what I need to put together a kit of the GH2 and lenses? I've held off the DSLR thing a long time, I have an event in July that would be a good test, where do i go for still/video set up, lenses+camera and do I need a back-up body?
Zephyrnoid
Veteran
It's all perception man, the 5dmk3 resolves 4k you just can't see it
I just hope Canon isn't doing some trickery with a hobbled 5dmk3 resolving invisible 4k only to roll out a patch at an additional cost that releases the 4K goodness. Now THAT would be harsh.
yeah and the 4k camera won't cost only $3,5k for sure!
vision_filmz
Carbonite Member
Can anyone suggest a good lens for the new 5Dmark II under $500? I usually use a 28mm prime on my 60d and I really like the field of view...
Thanks
Thanks
HansSteinert
Well-known member
A 28mm on a 60D would be slightly under a 50mm on full frame. Grab either the Sigma 50mm f1.4, or save a few more bucks (recommended) and grab the Zeiss 50mm f1.4. You will thank me later.
If you want something a little wider, grab the Samyang/ Rokinon 35mm f1.4.
I found the Zeiss used/refurbished on ebay for 560. That's a damn good deal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZEISS-50MM-F-1-4-ZE-PLANAR-T-CANON-EF-MOUNT-LENS-USED-DEMO-/190647534781?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2c637a84bd
