4mp camera

wait wait... this may not be that far from canon mark 5d II. i got a response on 1080 30p and below:

- Industrial cameras don't list ISO
- You can change the camera's frame rate via input trigger to the camera or from the framegrabber. The camera does not have the ability to setup a timing circuit to do this
- These cameras have an F-mount lens option. I am not familiar with Nikon Prime lenses, but if they are F-mount, then they should fit. If they are auto focus, then they won't work.
- With the appropriate framegrabber hardware in the laptop to take the digital data from the camera and with enough hard drives to support the amount of data from the camera, the answer is yes
- $5,900

From your questions it seems like you are from the photographic world. The world of industrial digital cameras is very different. If you would like to discuss your requirements, please give me a call

questions were:
- iso options
- is frame rate easily adjustable from 30fps to below
- can i use nikon prime lenses on it via some kind of adapter? if so which one?
- i assume, it can record to a laptop, correct?
- what's the retail price of it?
 
It's an interesting price to pay for something that's comin' from Dalsa corp. I mean, they DO have a nice track record in the digital cinema realm, naturally.

Just the extra stuff you have to build AROUND the camera makes it that much more expensive.

You'll have to build a mini-PC rig to grab the information, etc etc.

The F-Mount should (correct me if I'm wrong) take F_Mount Nikon lenses if I remember that right, but I probably have that wrong so don't quote me. http://www.visionresearch.com/store/index.cfm?category=9 -- These are basically the Nikon Lenses but it doesn't list Nikon in the title. And that's Vision Research, the Phantom lads.

Interesting, nonetheless... CMOS tech with a Global Shutter...
 
not knowing this particular model but i've used similar ones, it should appear as a "web camera" in your computer, so you can capture with whatever.

/matt
 
got another response... it seems that one may need to haul a Desktop with a card around to capture from it:

"This camera has no memory/storage on it, which I am guessing the SI camera
does, so this camera must stream data out as quickly as it takes each frame.
So at 2Mbytes/image, 33 images/second, the laptop hard drive must be able to
sustain 66Mbytes/second in addition to running Windows. The output of the
camera is not of a form that your laptop will be able to get the data off of
it unless you have an interface card. The interface card will then be
responsible for whatever software functions that you will have access to at
the laptop. Industrial cameras don't list ISO, only S/N, but with a CCD
sensor, this camera should be much lower noise than a CMOS based SI camera

These cameras aren't designed for what you are trying to do and the
interfacing to make things a success is slim"
 
Told ya. Won't be any laptop computing on this one. Although you CAN get what you want out of it, it's probably not worth the hassle if you're looking to pinch pennies.

Just get an MKII and conform to 24p. Right now, that's the best looking option (to me) for ultra low-budget personal productions.
 
got some more info and looking into this more:
if these companies made just a little effort in proper direction, we could have a $5k global shutter, full frame 24p and even slowmo different lens mounts camera with 1080 recording to a laptop

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This is the type of thing you would be looking at
http://www.1stvision.com/framegrabbers/imperx/framelink-express.html

If you want to pursue something like this into a laptop, your best bet will
be to goto a similar camera with a Gigabit Ethernet output. This would
eliminate the need for a Camera Link framegrabber. Take a look at
http://www.1stvision.com/cameras/Prosilica/GE1910-GE1910C.html
 
Or just get the a-cam d2. It's exactly what you're looking for including capture card and viewfinder in a tiny package for $9k. I am, unless red dazzles us all by actually releasing something. :-)
 
mattsand said:
Or just get the a-cam d2. It's exactly what you're looking for including capture card and viewfinder in a tiny package for $9k. I am, unless red dazzles us all by actually releasing something. :-)
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do u have any more info on release dates? the ikonoskop site states 6mo from today, but what is "today" to them?

looks like no F-mount. so no Nikons or there's some kind of workaround?
 
the d2 has a c-mount so you can put almost anything on it due to the short flange distance, and the screw mount makes adapters very easy to build and they're always sturdy. i own a nikon to c-mount adapter from before that i got for free when i bought a $5 super 8 camera (along with an arri to c one), they are everywhere and work great. daniel at ikonoskop is a friend of mine but while i know for a fact that the camera exists and works it's as always a long wait until mass production can start. they said january but now they say soon. i don't know. at least they have the sensors now.

/matt
 
Kholi said:
Told ya. Won't be any laptop computing on this one. Although you CAN get what you want out of it, it's probably not worth the hassle if you're looking to pinch pennies.

Just get an MKII and conform to 24p. Right now, that's the best looking option (to me) for ultra low-budget personal productions.
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Doesn't matter if it's not a LAPTOP form factor.

There are other portable form factors totally doable.

Price is the real issue.

The SI is set up in a very similar way.
 
Of course it's DOABLE. Just about anything is DOABLE if you want to put money down.

Why bother, though?

Your investment return would be quite slow (depending on who you are,and if you're someone who's got a great hold on ROI you probably already have THE camera,anyway) and so would a production plagued with a small crew.

So yeah, doable. Plausible? probably not. You'd fair better worrying about a decent story and running with something like an MKII or D90 w/all the tricks in production and post.
 
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