4K HDR TV Sets Are Here...

DLD said:
And now 3D may - emphasis on "may", due to the "once bitten, twice shy" theory - make a comeback.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/m...-tech-could-make-help-3d-movies-more-popular/
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I didn't care about 3D until I got an LG E6 OLED with full-res passive 3D (same tech theaters use). Watching Guardians of the Galaxy on it is as impressive as any 4k/HDR material (kind of mindblowing) and actually looks better than any theater setup I've seen. I really think that 3D failed because it was half baked in terms of implementation on the consumer end (active shutter, poor brightness on non-HDR sets etc), so if it was repackaged and re-released I can see it actually being popular because it really is impressive when you see it the way it was meant to be shown.
 
Fahnon said:
I didn't care about 3D until I got an LG E6 OLED with full-res passive 3D (same tech theaters use). Watching Guardians of the Galaxy on it is as impressive as any 4k/HDR material (kind of mindblowing) and actually looks better than any theater setup I've seen...
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I think my glasses convert 3D back into 2D. Maybe I need to flip them around..

Nirv said:
An enterprising company might take that idea and put it in a phone and call it a holographic media machine one day.
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I already preordered a 55" model. As soon as it's out, it's mine.
 
Video technologists Joel Silver, Matt Murray, and Mark Henninger discuss the 2017 TV Shootout held at CE Week in New York City. Joel headed the event, Matt set up the entire system and was one of the judges, and Mark carefully observed the proceedings. Topics include the competing TVs, the addition of a Sony BVM-X300 4K HDR OLED broadcast-reference monitor, the move from audience voting to video-professional judges, the establishment of three performance categories (dark-room, bright room, and streaming), system setup, calibrating the TVs, the judging criteria, the comparative performance of the TVs, the winner, how closely the OLEDs performed, how the LCDs fared, answers to chat-room questions, and more.
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The annual Crampton & Moore tv shootout in the UK and CE Week shootout in NY both just recently wrapped and the overall and major category winners were OLED sets.

But prices still need to come down for both technologies for large(over 65"+) sets. I look at 55"-65" sets as sort of the bare minimum for an enjoyable experience. I have a 55" OLED in my bedroom and 92" rear-proj. in my den. At this point 95"-100" flat panel sets should be "affordable" for consumers, but the jump when you go over 65" is crazy. Speaking specifically to LG OLED, when you go from 55" to 65" it's a $1K jump, but go from 65" to 77" and it's a $10,000 jump! Move over to their LCD's and they have a 65" for $2200, but you jump to it's 88" sibling and it goes up $5800 to $8,000. They do have a 65" 4K LCD in it's lower level line for $1100, though.
 
Rumors of a 4K HDR AppleTV are swirling. Once that gets out things will go mainstream a lot quicker, they always tend to when Apple steps out (love it or hate it...).

Anyway, I would like to upgrade my 2010 55" HDTV in the next couple years to a 4K HDR 70"-80" set (no smaller than 70").

It seems like we are right on the cusp of a lot of new technology with OLED, and as Run&Gun points out with the larger sets, the prices are high.

Seems like the recommendation, if one is patient and content with current set, to wait... Any educated predictions as to when high quality 4K 75" OLED, full Rec2020 HDR, etc. sets may be had for $1800-$2800?
 
Run&Gun said:
The annual Crampton & Moore tv shootout in the UK and CE Week shootout in NY both just recently wrapped and the overall and major category winners were OLED sets...
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I thought GH2 won it. What, the wrong shootout? Oh,well.

Right now, in the 80-100", this seems to be the most reasonable

- http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/...rt-throw-projector-38-inch-ultrawide-monitor/

In terms of OLED, there are a lot of companies/research labs who try to invent their own way of printing the screens (some are using a spraying technique) to become independent of the LG held patents. The problem is that a lot of OLED is being made for either the smartphones (next iPhone should have Samsung's AMOLED screen) and the wrist "watches" but not even for laptops or PC monitors.

Of course, a lot of the wrist gear manufacturers are having a hard time peddling their wares too.
 
I've looked up a few reviews of the current 4K projectors, as well as some technical background on the DLP equipped units.

A brief summary : Texas Instrument's chip is not "real" 4K but actually 2.7K. It achieves 4K with pixel shifting, which it does every 1/120th of a second, so the human eye can't detect it. Some human eyes can, however, detect the color wheel "rainbow" effect. Other than that, the resolution checks out and prices are quite affordable, with many having already dropped below the $3,000 level.

There are also models with three 1080p LCD panels, which claim 4K but are about half off in resolution. Within a "normal viewing distance", the differences are negligible, if any. The LCD panels don't have the color wheel but may have alignment problems, much like the old RGB projectors.

One plus on projectors is that they are relatively portable from room to room and even outside.
 
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