jdmoviemaker
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I want feedback on which people who would choose one over the other , does anybody have any reasons why they would choose hd over 24p? 
24p or hd?
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Jared Meyer
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Why would you have to choose?
jdmoviemaker
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because not everyone has a hd tv and with hd camera price it may not be worth it right now
Jared Meyer
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Well, those are different questions, but if you can afford it, go HD. But it's hard to go into more detail without more info. Are you shooting home movies or short films or what?
If you'd like to play around with narrative filmmaking, 24p is a must.
If you'd like to play around with narrative filmmaking, 24p is a must.
jdmoviemaker
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yes I do music videos and shorts
Robbie Comeau
Como's back. back again
Dude, you can do 24p, WITH HD. or you can do 24p with SD. It doesn't matter. Its not either or here. the SD DVX, and most HD cameras (hvx, hpx, RED, canon xha1) can handle 24p.
Edit- What Bilgami said....
Edit- What Bilgami said....
jdmoviemaker
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Im saying that the dvx100b does not do hd and the hvx200 is out of my price range, I would have to go with a cheaper hd camera that may not offer 24p like some of the consumer level sony hd cameras
Just to add my 2 cents...
The consumer level "HD" cameras, that you mention, such as Sony, are technically HDV, not HD. It boils down to the size of the CCD, color sampling and frame rate choices (such as 24P) that makes, say, an HVX stand out from a Canon HV20.
This is a whole can of worms that I don't exactly want to delve into, but you can find plenty of info here on it as well as: http://library.creativecow.net/articles/kolb_tim/hdv_vs_hd_primer.php
Compare your options and know/understand everything that the camera is capable of--4:2:0 color sampling, 1/3" chip, 1080i, etc... Even go to a rental house and play with the camera(s) at the rental house to explore them--or rent one for a day and go shoot for yourself. A $200 investment in research will look like in a drop in the bucket once you make a final decision and buy it. You'll probably even be that much more satisfied with your choice down the line when you're on a shoot.
The consumer level "HD" cameras, that you mention, such as Sony, are technically HDV, not HD. It boils down to the size of the CCD, color sampling and frame rate choices (such as 24P) that makes, say, an HVX stand out from a Canon HV20.
This is a whole can of worms that I don't exactly want to delve into, but you can find plenty of info here on it as well as: http://library.creativecow.net/articles/kolb_tim/hdv_vs_hd_primer.php
Compare your options and know/understand everything that the camera is capable of--4:2:0 color sampling, 1/3" chip, 1080i, etc... Even go to a rental house and play with the camera(s) at the rental house to explore them--or rent one for a day and go shoot for yourself. A $200 investment in research will look like in a drop in the bucket once you make a final decision and buy it. You'll probably even be that much more satisfied with your choice down the line when you're on a shoot.
BergVision
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The HVX200 is solid state. HD not HDV.
jdmoviemaker
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thank you for clearing that up for me , I think im going to go ahead and spend out on a sony hdv :cheesy:
Luis Caffesse
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HDV is HD
Period.
There are many HD formats out there, HDV just happens to be one of them.
In fact, the very first sentence of the article you linked to states,
" "HD" is a general term and it covers all the Hi Def formats including HDV really."
The article is discussing the differences between HD formats, just like there are differences in SD formats.
If you want to say that HDV is not a 'professional' format, well, that's something different.
But no question that it is an HD format.
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Jason Wilson
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those sony cams with the 60i hd looks like complete trash...
its a waste of time to try and do hd IMO unless you have 7,000 to get your portable storage + hvx...
when you get into the HD market cheap HD work is going to stand out more
its a waste of time to try and do hd IMO unless you have 7,000 to get your portable storage + hvx...
when you get into the HD market cheap HD work is going to stand out more
insanityfw
Ban Me Please!
I had a DVX and sold it. I've upgraded to the HVX on a shoot before and loved it. I'm on the list for a RED, which is a whole different deal, and I have an HV20 for playing around with.
The camera I wish I still had was the DVX, because it's just so solid in the right hands. Works in low-light, but if you light it right it just shines.
I'd say if you have a DVX right now, just stick with it, save pennies for another year and see what's out and what your financial situation.
Just my opinion.
J.
The camera I wish I still had was the DVX, because it's just so solid in the right hands. Works in low-light, but if you light it right it just shines.
I'd say if you have a DVX right now, just stick with it, save pennies for another year and see what's out and what your financial situation.
Just my opinion.
J.
No, whether or not it's HD boils down to your image resolution, and nothing else.
Cheesesailor77
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or get the canon A1. That's probably what i'd do if i was buying now and couldn't afford an HVX
anchoryanker
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That's the exact conundrum I was facing, and the same decision I came to. It made no sense for me to buy an HD when my school's editing stations can't even edit it(FCP 4.5), when I could get a DVX that they could handle and with the 24p I wanted anyway.
Apart from the not HD statement being incorrect - I think the cameras you are referring to are not consumer cams.
Weather a cam uses solid state or not has nothing to do with if its HD or not as well.
Luis has already cleared up the misnomer that HDV is not HD.
HD is based on the resolution in which the camera can output an image - usually 1080 or 720. Chips, format, capture process are all irrelevant.