1080p vs 720p for weddings

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Ken1212

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What's the difference of shooting 720p and burning a 1080p dvd in post instead of shooting 1080p? Trying to see how much storage I need.
 
Did not burn to 1080p. But I did shoot a wedding in 720p24pn, and exported and burn in SD (regular DVD) and looked really good on my 50"plasma. Very happy of the choice, did not have to swap as often cards. Clients were very happy with the result....
 
If your burning SD will shooting in HD look any better then dvcpro 50? For my DVD shoots i shoot in dvcpro50 since your going to down convert anyway if final product is on Dvd
 
I think he is planning to burn in 1080p , not very clear about that part. I was just sharing my experience shooting 720p and downconverting.Even if the end product is SD, it is a nice option to give to the client to be able in the future to use the footage in an HD environment.
 
I want to burn 1080p on a dual layer DVD. Or will 720p look just as good on a 50" screen?
So shoot 720p and upscale to 1080p in post to burn on DVD or
Shoot 720p and burn 720p
 
SD DVDs don't support the high definition standards.

You have to create a blu ray disc, unless I am missing something in your inquiry.

That requires a blu ray burner, authoring software, blu ray encoder and BD-R.
 
I thought you can burn HD on regular DVD's in Encore, as long as I can fit the information. I am just wondering if all I need is 720p if it's going to be viewed on 50" or 1080p will show a difference!
 
Burning is the not an issues, if I have to I can buy a blue ray burner. I am just wondering if shooting a wedding at 720p will be just as good as 1080p.
 
Personalty i like 1080i. Fast motion will look better on 720p, but your not taping sports here so i think 1080 will look better. 720 is certainly fine though and the difference is not huge. Our human eyes can only detect so much, and either format will look horrible up close on a 50" screen. What your concerned about it how it looks from the "proper viewing distance". Both formats will be fine for a wedding although 720 might be easier to manage. If using blueray keep in mind the disks are quite expensive especially if making multiple copies.
 
Will 1080i look better for moving shots than 720p, will the motion effect look better on 1080i. Can I burn HD on regualr dual layer DVDs.
 
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Ken1212 said:
Will 1080i look better for moving shots than 720p, will the motion/jello effect look better on 1080i.
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There are many factors involved in that, but spatial resolution isn't really one.

60i and 60p are both 60 hz will have exactly the same motion characteristics. This is true in 1080 or in 720.

60 hz has smoother motion than 30p and 24p, but the perceived smoothness of the slower frame rates has mostly to do with how you handle the camera. If you try to move it around like it's 60 hz, it'll seem stroby, but if you handle it with slower motion like you should with a slower frame rate, it'll look a lot better.

"Jello" is something that happens with rolling shutters; the HVX doesn't have it.

Can I burn HD on regualr dual layer DVDs.
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Yes, in Blu-ray format, but you would only be able to play it on a Blu-ray player and you won't be able to have all that much of it.
 
You can burn an AVCHD disc to a DL SD DVD, but good luck in finding a blu ray player that supports AVCHD dual layer DVDs.

Some do, but poorly, and some don't, at all.
 
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I thought you can burn HD on regular DVD's in Encore, as long as I can fit the information.
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Pretty sure that isn't true, but I'd like to be proven otherwise. If it is true (single or dual-layer), do I need a BluRay burner, or will my iMac's built-in work?
 
Well, I have seen my footage shot with my HPX in 1080 burn on a DVD DL as Blu Ray format. Played great on my blu ray player, looked almost the same as the regular blu ray burn, but was not recognized by my computer or regular DVD player... can inquire on what was their process to compress and burn if you guys are interested...
 
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It certainly would never be recognized by a standard DVD player. The Blu-ray files themselves should be playable on a computer with the right software, but if you're trying to play it as a Blu-ray disc in a standard DVD drive, no, it won't work.
 
Bigger is not always better. I would shoot 720p60 or 720p24. There is no need to cross convert to 1080. Shoot and edit in 720. All tv's and dvd players are different. Some play nice with each other some don't. The shooter also makes difference (lighting, sound and composition).

If you want good quality, export your 720p timeline and create a Blu Ray disc.

FYI, you can create an AVCHD disc on a DVD-R. Purchase "Fast Path to Blu Ray" for in depth explanation on creating Blu Ray.
 
As I indicated earlier, you can use a SD DVD disc, and burn an AVCHD disc.

Not all blu ray players support them, or support them completed.

If you add dual layer to the equation that incompatibility issues increase.
 
Most BluRay Players will upconvert 720 footage if they are set to do so. The regular person will probably not notice the difference if it is 720 being up-converted anyway. As one other user mentioned, as 30p, your footage may get a pinch stroby looking if you dont understand how to shoot and move the camera. A benefit to shooting 720 on the HVX, is using the 720 30pn modes. Then you can get nice slow motion, or fast motion (AKA Over or Under Cranking) That is why many prefer to shoot in 720 30p. Another benefit is the ability to upscale to 1080 if you need to, or down rez to HD, without significant degredation. Squishing 1080 footage down to 1/4 it's size for SD playback, has its drawbacks. 720 is only twice the size of SD, and a little more than half the size of 1080, so it tends to up or downconvert the best. This is in my humble opinion only.

The HVX also tends to perform better, in a 30p mode too. Youll get more dynamic range of color and shading using the 30 Progressive modes, in either 1080 or 720, than you will 60.

SD playing on HD discs. HD-DVD used to allow for SD discs to play HD files as long as they would fit. But they lost the HD standards war to BluRay. I think HD-DVD was a Samsung/Microsoft thing, where as BluRay was Sony's baby this time. (I sometimes think Sony never got over selling off VHS to JVC, thinking Betamax would be the obvious choice of consumers, Man, having to watch the very thing they invented (VHS) and sold off, become the 20 year standard. That had to hurt the ego a bit)
 
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