100b for film

[FFSProductions]

Hello, I've got quite a few questions for you guys. I am going to be shooting a video with a DVX100b, in a film-cinematic style.

I want to get the feel of film with 24p, but some shots I need to shoot in 60i. I am using Adobe Premiere, and the frame rate settings are decided when you create a new project. Should I just set the project for 24 fps, then tell Premiere to interperate the 60i as 60fps after capturing?

Should I shoot the rest of the shots in 24p or 24pa?

When shooting night shots, what settings should I toy with to achieve the best image quality in low light?

Would you recomend changing the coring level to reduce the graininess?

Do you have any suggestions for achieving a more film-like appearance? (IE playing with the gamma?), or should I do that in post?

Thanks for your help!

 

[Joshua Provost]

Why do some shots need to be in 60i?

If it's for slow-motion purposes, then shoot 24pA and use a 24p timeline. Drop the 60i clips in the timeline and set the Speed to 40%.

If it's just for a different look, then shoot 24p Normal and 60i and edit on a 60i timeline.

Oh, and if you want to shoot 60i to have a sort of video-camera/TV look to certain sections, that probably not the best way. They don't do that stuff in films by shooting 60i. They shoot 24fps, and add fake scanlines, distortion, noise etc. to give a video look.

 

[FFSProductions]

thanks

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The 60i Shots would be for slow motion. So should I have Premiere interperate the footage as 60 fps first? Or does reducing the speed to 40% have the same effect? If so, then would that restrict me to 40% speed?

 

[Bill Sullivan]

I have a similiar question. After 15 months of shooting, I'm ready to begin editing my doc. I began shooting in 24p then switched over to 24pa. I also shot some footage in 30p (in case I needed slow motion). I will also be incorporating some 60i amateur home video footage shot with a consumer cam. Some of this will be slowed down, some will not.

The doc will be broadcast on television, but, of course, will first make the festival rounds.

I'm unsure if this this should be edited on a 24p or 60i timeline. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each (ie: if edited on a 24p timeline, what will the 24p, 30p, and 60i footage look like)?

Thanks!

-Bill

 

[Joshua Provost]

The 60i Shots would be for slow motion. So should I have Premiere interperate the footage as 60 fps first? Or does reducing the speed to 40% have the same effect? If so, then would that restrict me to 40% speed?

You don't need to Interpret the footage. Just drop it on the timeline and change the speed. Premiere automatically deinterlaces when it does speed changes.

I have a similiar question. After 15 months of shooting, I'm ready to begin editing my doc. I began shooting in 24p then switched over to 24pa. I also shot some footage in 30p (in case I needed slow motion). I will also be incorporating some 60i amateur home video footage shot with a consumer cam. Some of this will be slowed down, some will not.

The doc will be broadcast on television, but, of course, will first make the festival rounds.

I'm unsure if this this should be edited on a 24p or 60i timeline. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each (ie: if edited on a 24p timeline, what will the 24p, 30p, and 60i footage look like)?

-Bill

Unfortunately, you have to go with the least common denominator and edit on a 60i timeline, to keep the 60i footage looking right. The 30p footage will not be slow-motion at that point, either.

Another option is to convert the 60i footage to 24p using whatever your favorite process, and then edit everything on a 24p timeline (don't forget to change speed on the 30p to 80% to get the slight slow-motion).

 

[Bill Sullivan]

Thanks Joshua!

This is the first film I've edited myself so can you tell me how to convert 60i footage to 24p? If a 60i timeline is an issue I may have to do this. I'm not as concerned about the 60i footage looking right as I am the 24p. Overall 99% is 24pa, 2% 24p, 1% 60i. The other 2% is 30p. I don't know at this point how much, if any, of the 30p I will want in slow motion. My last doc was shot with the PD 150 and all these decisions were made in post. The problem with making a doc is that it's real life. I'm just trying to get the scene as it is unfolding. I'm not even thinking, "This will look great in slow motion."

Again, thanks for your help!

-Bill

 

[Joshua Provost]

This is the first film I've edited myself so can you tell me how to convert 60i footage to 24p?

DVFilm Maker, Magic Bullet, Avisynth, there are many ways to do it. The easiest way if you have $100 to spend is to get DVFilm Maker.

I don't know at this point how much, if any, of the 30p I will want in slow motion.

Well, 30p does not convert to 24p nicely at all, unless you do 80% slow motion. If you must use the 30p, and it must be at normal speed, you're back to a 60i timeline to make that work. And there's nothing wrong with that, everything can be fine that way, but you do have to look at the interlacing lines all the time you are editing.