Cinema EOS Announcement on 19th Jan - EOS R5C

no IBIS indeed. that takes the edge off my camera envy

also, micro HDMI is just...wow

nevertheless I'm sure we'll see lots of pretty things shot with this
 
Liam Hall said:
Limitless internal recording in HQ?
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It’s very much limited because it’s tied to the budget for storage media.

I shot A LOT handheld. I’m very disappointed that they killed the IBIS.

I will have a look at it when my dealer has a demo to see how it works with stills.
there’s no need for a rush and atm I don’t see the R5 being replaced by the R5c.
 
Clermond said:
Seems you never shoot stills.
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IBIS is more beneficial for video than stills in my opinion.

For stills the shutter speed is often high enough (at least with longish lenses) not to need roll (rotation about the lens axis) stabilisation. Roll stabilisation cannot be achieved by OIS. It requires IBIS.

With video, you need roll stabilisation.

For example, here’s some footage that someone shot handheld with a stabilised lens but no IBIS:

https://youtu.be/poHvD_uAH_E?t=60

At 60 seconds there’s a railing across the frame. The rail looks solid in the centre. On the edge, e.g. the left edge of the frame, the same rail is bouncing all over the place because there is no roll stabilisation.

This roll is not affected by focal length, so using shorter lenses doesn’t reduce it.

Of course IBIS is nice for stills too, especially silly stuff like 1-second exposures on my Olympus.
 
Clermond said:
It’s very much limited because it’s tied to the budget for storage media.

I shot A LOT handheld. I’m very disappointed that they killed the IBIS.

I will have a look at it when my dealer has a demo to see how it works with stills.
there’s no need for a rush and atm I don’t see the R5 being replaced by the R5c.
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The new Angelbird CFexpress cards are super cheap.

https://www.proav.co.uk/angelbird-av...ress-se-512-gb
 
Samuel Dilworth said:
IBIS is more beneficial for video than stills in my opinion.

For stills the shutter speed is often high enough (at least with longish lenses) not to need roll (rotation about the lens axis) stabilisation. Roll stabilisation cannot be achieved by OIS. It requires IBIS.

With video, you need roll stabilisation.

For example, here’s some footage that someone shot handheld with a stabilised lens but no IBIS:

https://youtu.be/poHvD_uAH_E?t=60

At 60 seconds there’s a railing across the frame. The rail looks solid in the centre. On the edge, e.g. the left edge of the frame, the same rail is bouncing all over the place because there is no roll stabilisation.

This roll is not affected by focal length, so using shorter lenses doesn’t reduce it.

Of course IBIS is nice for stills too, especially silly stuff like 1-second exposures on my Olympus.
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I am shooting stills for a very very long time and you can trust me that I know what’s the benefit of IBIS. It’s way beyond nice.
the tasks have change a lot since the time when you could bring some strobes when the light isn’t enough
The lack of IBIS for stills puts you back to the DSLR age. it seems that the video market is more lucrative for Canon.
 
with whatever stabilisation.. you take a 1/15th photo of someone and they move. photo blurred - too risky, it doesnt matter how still the camera/sensor is.. if you shoot stills of peopele you need to be on 1/60 or more to get the job done quick.
 
morgan_moore said:
with whatever stabilisation.. you take a 1/15th photo of someone and they move. photo blurred - too risky, it doesnt matter how still the camera/sensor is.. if you shoot stills of peopele you need to be on 1/60 or more to get the job done quick.
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Im shooting moving objects in 1/25 while tracking the camera and it’s tack sharp. I even sometimes use a 2 axis Kenyon additionally which is a bit bulky off course
 
@Cleremond,

have you been able to test and see if iso100 in stills has more dynamic range than iso800 for the C-log variants?
 
Clermond said:
Im shooting moving objects in 1/25 while tracking the camera and it’s tack sharp. I even sometimes use a 2 axis Kenyon additionally which is a bit bulky off course
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maybe you are doing racecars, horses or whatever.. but its a special case. If you get someone to standthere and photograph them at 1/25 there is a chance they will move and ruin the shot - my clients dont to blurry subjects (interesting I was told that early in the career)

'i love the blur.. but the kids want to know what sort of trainers they are wearing - make sharp pictures - get a flash'

to pan and to a racecar at 1/60 you dont need any digital intervention
 
In Canon's presentation DR is quoted as 14 stops.

Let's see how that holds up. The only thing that interests me with that statement (it isn't the actual number), is that it might signify that the video actually is cleaner than the R5. Time will tell.
 
morgan_moore said:
maybe you are doing racecars, horses or whatever.. but its a special case. If you get someone to standthere and photograph them at 1/25 there is a chance they will move and ruin the shot - my clients dont to blurry subjects (interesting I was told that early in the career)

'i love the blur.. but the kids want to know what sort of trainers they are wearing - make sharp pictures - get a flash'

to pan and to a racecar at 1/60 you dont need any digital intervention
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I’m glad that I have someone who explains my work.
 
AndreeOnline said:
In Canon's presentation DR is quoted as 14 stops.

Let's see how that holds up. The only thing that interests me with that statement (it isn't the actual number), is that it might signify that the video actually is cleaner than the R5. Time will tell.
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Well now that it has a “C” badge, it may be getting those Cine EOS inflated DR numbers to keep pace with Red.

What does the C500ii list as its DR?
 
All of their cameras from the last 5-6 years have been listed as 14 or 15 stops or "over 15 stops" like the C500 II.

It doesn't mean much...and they are usually cleaner because of the newer tech/sensor a few years later but not sure in this particular case.
 
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