JVC GY-HM100 - 35 Mbps

Nektonic said:
You're absolutely right, however, for wedding and event videographers and anyone who needs something that shoots good HD footage without taking up tons of hard disk space, plus faster/less hassle post production something like this is more suited to that. Add to that it has a native Final Cut codec and I can't help but get excited.
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This camera has already knocked the XH-A1 and the Sony FX1000 into second and third place on my wishlist for ease of use alone, as well as size.

Nektonic said:
Scarlet sounds great for pure filmmaking, but for event coverage I don't know, seems to not be really suited for it. Maybe the workflow will mature enough to allow for those kinds of jobs. If I can afford it I would like to get both a Scarlet (for films) and some sort of tapeless cam (for basic videography) later in 09. At least that is my reasoning.
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Plus ease of use is worth it's weight in gold. This is great time for this camera. I hope to have one before the end of the year provided it's stable. I love FCP, so it would be awesome to have something that will go from camera to FCP. Plus the size kicks butt for run and gun filmmaking. If all goes well with it I'll probably get this.

-Nate
 
mjeppsen said:
Yep. Key point being "in 12 months". And that's Red's timeline, which has been slipped repeatedly since Scarlet's initial announcement. The HM700 is scheduled for March release. Solid-state tools for users NOW. Another concern of mine is addressed in the HM100 and HM700, namely CCD imagers vs CMOS. As we all have learned about skew and wobble, CMOS isn't well-suited to certain shooting situations.

I agree wholeheartedly. Different strokes for different folks. I can see JVC making huge inroads in the wedding, event, recital, sports, etc etc markets with these new solid-state cameras.

Never used to be excited about JVC cameras, but that's changed with this announcement. My thoughts here: http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/freshdv/story/jvc_camcorder_native_quicktime/
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I agree wholeheartedly with your agreement. I would also add low budget filmmaking to your list of uses for these JVC cams. They may not be HVX's but they do offer 24p and cine gamma and cine matix. I've always been one to look at a camera from the perspective of can I use it for more than one type of shooting style or environment? Sure a Scarlet would be great for filmmaking, but it is definitely a bonus to be able to shoot more than one type of thing with a single camera.

I've never been excited about JVC cameras much either. I'm curious to see what these are capable of, especially the 700 model.

I have to say though, this should be the future of solid state cameras. Various support for different codecs and NLE's. Yes Panasonic has done this to some extent with the HVX, but this seems like a nice jump in the evolution of this idea. Hopefully this thinking will be adopted by Sony and Canon as well. Then when the full frame CMOS censors (or CCD would be fine too) are advanced enough to not have the skew and jello wobble that the D90 has, and the 5D mkII has some of as well, we can hopefully get affordable cameras that allow interchangeable 35mm and DSLR lenses.
 
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I recently bought an EX1 and love it (and by the way, you can now use SDHC cards with the EX1 via a new aftermarket adapter).

That said, this JVC is the kind of camera I've been wanting to see for a long time -- a quality professional tool packed into a small, discrete form factor. They are on the right track. If only they could squeeze some larger chips into that body...
 
All I will say is that I hope that JVC has upped their game as far as reliability. I know that there are a few satisfied GY-HDxxx camcorder owners who have been happy with their JVC cameras but I also used JVC pro video gear for years since a client of mine had a ton of it and it seemed as if the gear was ALWAYS breaking down. Have not been real impressed with their track record.

If you are a working pro, your gear going down can cost you serious money and even clients. Hope JVC is back in the game and is making more reliable gear.

Dan
 
JVC has nailed it with the second camera. If it is any good in low light, I would sell my
EX1 for one. I hate the CMOS effects.
 
Don't expect a little miracle from this camera. Canon A1 and Sony FX1000 is probably the best that can be done at this low price with CCD and CMOS respectively and both compare very well with much more expensive models. The big companies know what professional quality is (large pixel, high resolution, I-Frame format) and they are saving it for 50,000 euro cameras. The rest of it is a just a marketing effort, a feature here, a feature there, new formats, new media, new workflows, everything except what really counts.
 
This GY-HM100 looks like a GZ-HD7 on steroids. The GZ-HD7 is a nice advanced consumer camera with some flaws, being the most remarkable one its strange .TOD codec (it's not bad, in fact it's as good or bad as HDV but you can't work natively with it in any popular edit suite so conversion with something like MPEGStreamclip is necessary). The GY-HM100 seems to have all the GZ-HD7 lacks (a good variable pro codec, XLR audio inputs, a better viewfinder, three 1/4' vs. 1/5' chips, SDHC recording capacity, onboard ND filters) while maintaining its basic body design and form factor. I hope JVC had improved the IS with this camera because it sucks with the GY-HD7.
 
Otis Grapsas said:
Don't expect a little miracle from this camera. Canon A1 and Sony FX1000 is probably the best that can be done at this low price with CCD and CMOS respectively and both compare very well with much more expensive models.
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This is why I'm more interested in the GY-HM700. The HM100 would obviously make a nice B-cam for the HM700 though.

Of course I won't be surprised if the HM700 is as much as an EX1. Actually I'm expecting it to be that much.
 
I think this JVC GY-HM100 would be perfect for me if it had a zoom with a bigger range: instead of only a 39-390mm, for example a 28-560mm. Also AVCHD with the same 35Mps instead of the Quicktime codec. But the good news is that finnaly appears a really small camera with HD quality and manual controls.
 
Does anyone know if the 35mbps codec JVC uses is the same as the XDCAM EX codec? Will the Sony software (XDCAM Clip Browser and XDCAM Transer) work with it or is it some new wrapper that JVC has put onto the stream to make it uploadable to FCP's timeline directly? Just curious.

Dan
 
puredrifting said:
Does anyone know if the 35mbps codec JVC uses is the same as the XDCAM EX codec? Will the Sony software (XDCAM Clip Browser and XDCAM Transer) work with it or is it some new wrapper that JVC has put onto the stream to make it uploadable to FCP's timeline directly? Just curious.

Dan
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I would think that the regular ISO recording mode which is supposed to be universal to all NLE's would work, but the Quicktime mode's clips won't though? That would be my guess.
 
This NAB should bring other contenders to the table. The game changing machine here wasn't the Scarlet, IMO, but the Canon 5d Mark II. That was the game changer.

I also don't think these offerings are anything special. Puredrifting is right. JVC is known for its reliability issues in their camera gear. To catch my attention, the shoulder mount camera should have had at least a 1/2CCD. As is, its still doesn't justify a move from my 3 years old HVX...

You want a great camera for the price- The EX3. That's the best sub 10k camera out there right now. From personal experience. However, still not worth a move from the HVX.
 
SPZ said:
This NAB should bring other contenders to the table. The game changing machine here wasn't the Scarlet, IMO, but the Canon 5d Mark II. That was the game changer.

I also don't think these offerings are anything special. Puredrifting is right. JVC is known for its reliability issues in their camera gear. To catch my attention, the shoulder mount camera should have had at least a 1/2CCD. As is, its still doesn't justify a move from my 3 years old HVX...

You want a great camera for the price- The EX3. That's the best sub 10k camera out there right now. From personal experience. However, still not worth a move from the HVX.
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While these JVC camera's are interesting, I agree. I am very happy with my Canon A1 for now and the immediate future. I would like to go tapeless in the second half or final third of 2009, so I am in no hurry to upgrade right now. If I had to pick a tapeless camera right now I would go with a Panasonic HMC150 or HPX170 over the JVC, at least until we know more about them. I would bet that the HM700 JVC will be pricey. You have to admit that the idea of a FCP native codec is pretty cool though, and they're offering the ability to record cheaply on SDHC cards.

I would love for this NAB to see Canon and or the others release something like the 5D mkII but in a pro camera body and with a better codec, as well as having full manual controls. I hope. I hope.
 
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Nektonic said:
I would think that the regular ISO recording mode which is supposed to be universal to all NLE's would work, but the Quicktime mode's clips won't though? That would be my guess.
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When you look at the info on the quicktime file it is recognised as XDCAM EX. There is a video about this on the mac video website.
 
http://www.jvcpro.com.au/JVCPRO_200..._catalogueItem.jsp?pID=27&catID=77&prodID=527

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