Few Directors Become Famous
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This won't make me popular here but I don't think directing takes an exceptional amount of talent. Give an average but committed person a brilliant script, a great cast and some cash, good chance you'll have a very good film when all is said and done. Does anyone here think Clint Eastwood is a particularly gifted individual? I don't. Yet two Academy Awards argue otherwise.
In my mind, Eastwood was a mediocre actor with a great face and astonishing screen presence. He parlayed that, along with an agreeable and modest demeanor along with a ton of experience, into a second life as an A-list director.
In my mind, Eastwood was a mediocre actor with a great face and astonishing screen presence. He parlayed that, along with an agreeable and modest demeanor along with a ton of experience, into a second life as an A-list director.
chromeboy007
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brianluce said:
I agree. but i think the nature of this discussion kind of lumps the director, writer and producer into the same identity --> the filmmaker, or auteur. An auteur with no talent will not go too far. A director with little talent but a spider web of connections, might get a chance to put his name on something worth while.
jeremytuttle
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I think good directors are smart enough to surround them selves with other talented and hard working film makers. They find a good DP, editor, producer, and composer, writers, etc (even actors) and stick with them. You can be the best director in the world but if you don't have a good team to back you up you are... well a good director of a crappy movie and that won't get your name recognized, at least not in a good light... at least that is my two cents.
But, I do think, like any art form, talent and determination play a big role.
But, I do think, like any art form, talent and determination play a big role.
Gohanto
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Personally I think it largely depends on the cast the director selects. Not terms of being right for the part, but in terms of star power.
Most people could've made Rush Hour 2 with two celebrities making jokes at each other. Not everyone can make E.T., Lord of the Rings, Alien, or A Clockwork Orange. Had blockbuster people been cast in these movies, I think there directors wouldn't have gotten as well known as they have by the average person reguardless of the directing talent shown in these movies.
Unless the director is already famous, he usually isn't talked about much unless there is no one in the A-List cast to talk about. Even if the director is famous, sometimes if the cast is big enough no one knows the director (Examples being Ocean's Eleven and Gladiator).
Most people could've made Rush Hour 2 with two celebrities making jokes at each other. Not everyone can make E.T., Lord of the Rings, Alien, or A Clockwork Orange. Had blockbuster people been cast in these movies, I think there directors wouldn't have gotten as well known as they have by the average person reguardless of the directing talent shown in these movies.
Unless the director is already famous, he usually isn't talked about much unless there is no one in the A-List cast to talk about. Even if the director is famous, sometimes if the cast is big enough no one knows the director (Examples being Ocean's Eleven and Gladiator).
J.R. Hudson
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You don't think it takes an exceptional amount of talent ? This may be one of the biggest mistatements I have ever heard. There is a reason one uses names in the same sentence as Blaine illustrated and there is a reason filmmakers like Uwe Bolle suck.
I'm having a hard time believeing you're even being serious with this opinion.
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No really; I still cannot even believe you said it.
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No serious.
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inspire84
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Keep grinding...being famous should never matter. In the end if you can do what you love as a living then that should bring the ultimate hapiness. Constantly stay creative, motivated and network with the right people who believe in you. There's plenty of assholes out there but make sure not to let them get in your way.
J.R. Hudson
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brianluce said:
(speechless)
I'm not even gonna humor you with a rebuttal as it it obvious it wouldn't matter and you just don't seem to get it anyway.
(Utterly dumbfounded)
J.D.
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Great movies come from great scripts, great performances and a great director guiding the process. A director has to be able to understand many more facets of filmmaking than an actor or writer. I have done all three of these jobs: acting, writing and directing as a professional. Of the three Directing is the most difficult, (and the most fun) To say the two elements of acting and writing alone without a great director make a great movie is absurd.
Mark Harris
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John_Hudson said:
JH, what's the problem, he just made all our jobs 1000% easier. You don't even have to show up to make a great film! Isn't that a relief?
J.R. Hudson
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I literally am just speechless.
I have to go beat a kitten or something.
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I guess it proves Scorsese really doesn't deserve an Oscar
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Brain
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What the .......... ?
I have to go beat a kitten or something.
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I guess it proves Scorsese really doesn't deserve an Oscar
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Brain
Dude
What the .......... ?
They Live
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vitaluminosa said:
You could always sell your soul to the Devil.
And man, what have I been doing with my life? Apparently directors aren't needed to make movies.........has Hollywood found out yet? Just pull up to the lot with a good script and VOILA, you got your movie.
Mark Harris
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John_Hudson said:
You were right the first time, no rebuttal deserved. Just talking to actors and helping to guide them towards a performance alone takes a huge amount of talent and skill - not to mention everything else a director is responsible for...
You might want to break down what you're saying, for us short-brained people. I'm not jumping on a wtf-brianluce-bandwagon... I really want to see where you're coming from with this one.brianluce said:
Maybe, you're more concerned with the GENIUS word in your post. Where-as, it might not take a GENIUS to recreate Sin City. It sure as hell WILL take a director that understands the fundamentals and one with his (in this case, because there ARE excellent female directors) own flare.
I think I get what you're saying, you just might not be saying it the right way. And, most of the time, it's a lot about how you say things 'round here.
J.R. Hudson
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I'm all ears
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
A writer who feels that his words are the be all and end all of storytelling has no business in the motion picture industry. If his ego demands that kind of attention he needs to be writing novels (of course, then he must deal with editors) or become a playwright.
As unfair as it seems to the writer, in the medium of film, the director is the author of the piece. I can think of no other story telling endeavor that requires the same amount of collaboration and cooperation. I think this is a huge sticking point with many writers.
As unfair as it seems to the writer, in the medium of film, the director is the author of the piece. I can think of no other story telling endeavor that requires the same amount of collaboration and cooperation. I think this is a huge sticking point with many writers.
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