Amazing new redrock product!!!!!

If I sound like a sour-puss it is because back when I experienced all the known issues with my M2 (severe vignetting, poor e2e and general sharpnes etc), the feedback from Redrock was allways that there was something wrong with my other equipment (lenses ie) and setup ("get new lenses", "zoom in further" etc.)
So I have some trust-issues with Redrock.
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Well not to further infuriate you, but I never had those issues with my redrock, other than the light loss, and vignetting on only one lens. So there could be some truth to what redrock told you...

And as far as me not knowing my ASA scale, I am a director, not a DP. My DP, god love him, is the one who gave me the ASA info. But it is true that to match the two cameras, the lenses were 3 stops apart.

I will say again, if you love the LEX, congrats. It's a nice item. I think that whatever adapter you buy, you end up getting used to it, and therefore some loyalty comes with that. I am definitely loyal to Redrock, but mainly because of their commitment to putting these tools in our hands for so much less. When I first came across the redrock, it was when the only other option was the P&S. I think companies that challenge the maxim that filmmaking tools should be cost prohibitive to industry outsiders should be supported by all who wish to make great films. (that includes companies like Brevis, Letus, Red!)
 
jdkhanlian said:
maybe somehow they have designed interchangeable ground glass.
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They wouldn't dare do that, unless they also changed the way it was mounted - can you imagine the nightmare that would be involved in swapping out the GG with the existing collet system that is also providing the flange focal distance setting?!

Duncan
 
i bet it's some kind of optical or digital viewfinder. optical means a beam splitter. so more light loss.. unless they went the rotating mirror route.. that would be cool.... but it'd mess with shutter speeds unless they went all out and made a variable one... hmmm that would be awesome!

i hope it's a variable rotating mirror viewfinder attachment!
 
RED style is super lame. All it does is make the tech geeks... geekier, and the real cam ops who use what is available to them now... get frustrated that their time was wasted. Someone make this a sticky when something of value is revealed.
 
Skywalker688 said:
My DP, god love him, is the one who gave me the ASA info. But it is true that to match the two cameras, the lenses were 3 stops apart.
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You do realize that just because 5.6 - 2.8 = 2.8, it doesn't mean that the difference between F-5.6 and f-2.8 is 2.8 stops.

Just checking
 
Ha ha ha! My single actual credit as a cinematographer. Well sniffed out. But if you look at the rest of my imdb page, you will find many other credits for other things. As with many low budget filmmakers, I tend to play many roles.

You do realize that just because 5.6 - 2.8 = 2.8, it doesn't mean that the difference between F-5.6 and f-2.8 is 2.8 stops.
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And yes, I do know this. As I stated quite clearly, it was a mistake, and the math was wrong. I do not deny that, nor do I consider myself nearly as smart as you fine folks. Feel free to continue to berate me for it, a rookie mistake.
 
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Skywalker688 said:
Well not to further infuriate you, but I never had those issues with my redrock, other than the light loss, and vignetting on only one lens. So there could be some truth to what redrock told you...
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Nah, I have had none of those issues with either my LEX, my friends brevis, nor on my DSLR or on RED, so in actuallity, there is basically no truth in it.

Also, I don't love my LEX. I try not to love equipment unless it is absolutely perfect, and none ever is. Fanboy'ing makes you blind, and that's hardly what you want as a filmmaker.
 
No worries. I've heard others who've had problems as well, perhaps I was just lucky.

This is a quote from Andrew Lee at Redrock:

Much of the assembly and manufacturing is done, it's just a few variables to be ironed out and we can announce everything. Keep in mind, when we DO announce what we're announcing, we'll have a 100% certain ship date, because we'll have them in stock and ready to go!
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Hi Guys,

Sorry, this is a bit of a non answer...

Much of the assembly and manufacturing is done, it's just a few variables to be ironed out and we can announce everything. Keep in mind, when we DO announce what we're announcing, we'll have a 100% certain ship date, because we'll have them in stock and ready to go!

Cheers!
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Straight from Andrew Lee over at the redrock forum. After the matte box debacle, I doubt redrock will ever again announce a product before it is ready to ship (which is absolutely the right way to do it).

I am actually quite satisfied with the light loss on my current M2 combo with the new cinescreen - I am really hoping for an easy solution for collimation on this new product. That will seal the deal for me.


EDIT:: AJ, you beat me to it.
 
Sooo AJ...say someone was about to sell their current Redrock/MicroX setup. Would it be better to keep that current setup and modify it or just sell it and put the money towards a "Redrock Mysterium 3000" when it comes out?

Hypothetically speaking of course! :-D

-D
 
Will - You will be pleased. Once we have all the info together, we'll get all the details to everyone. As discussed here, we announce products when they are ready to ship.

B
 
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its not thaty crazy. The hpx170 is 500 ISO.

with a half stop lightloss that puts it at a 320 like skywlker said. nothing insane.
 
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