Tim Joy
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There's a few more goodies in there too. You might have to pause at certain parts to really see 'em. :thumbsup:
THANKS for the praise! I really appreciate it!
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There's a few more goodies in there too. You might have to pause at certain parts to really see 'em. :thumbsup:
THANKS for the praise! I really appreciate it!
Yeah. Very interesting work here.
At first I was like "WTF? Is he a drug dealer or a man of God. Crystal ball and a candle? WTF?"
I like that she's a twisted kid playing drug dealer and "exorkism".
One thing I can't quite wrap my noodle around. And I don't know if it matters that much because it came from thinking about the film afterward - what Hitchcock called a refrigerator question: the audience is there with you in the telling of the story then later when they get home and open the refrigerator to make a sandwich they say "hey wait a minute ..." So here it is, see if I can express this clearly...
SPOILERS (highlight to read)
So one interpretation is
A) that the girl is intentionally making shadows on the wall and making ghost voices and then having the dolls react to her voice and shadows and moving furniture.
BUT ...
B) it seems like those are incidental. Just her moving her hand around to position them etc. But the characters, the dolls, don't have free will. So they can't be reacting to things she doesn't want them to be reacting to. In otherwords if she was playing drug deal, then the drug dealer would have never heard her voice and the story go off in that direction unless she wanted them to, unless she was playing drug deal interrupted by an "excorkism".
Am I making any sense? I mean it would have to be "A" right, and yet the dolls seem to have free will and be reacting to non intentional stimuli from the girl.
This has more complicated layers of meta-reality than the Twilight Zone episode you are homage-ing. In the Twilight Zone episode, the dolls are clearly aware and humans just don't know it. As long as no humans are around they can think and act freely. Here they seem to be doing that but they can't be they are just her puppets.
END SPOILER
Maybe I am way overthinking this - I probably am. But after viewing, it was something that made my head hurt a little.
In any case. I enjoyed the fllm.
Sorry if this has been answered before.
But could you please tell me what lens you were using when the two guys enter the room for the first time?
And can you confirm that as a dolly shot vs. steadicam.
Thanks very much,
Jack
At first I was like "WTF? Is he a drug dealer or a man of God. Crystal ball and a candle? WTF?"
I like that she's a twisted kid playing drug dealer and "exorkism".
One thing I can't quite wrap my noodle around. And I don't know if it matters that much because it came from thinking about the film afterward - what Hitchcock called a refrigerator question: the audience is there with you in the telling of the story then later when they get home and open the refrigerator to make a sandwich they say "hey wait a minute ..." So here it is, see if I can express this clearly...
SPOILERS (highlight to read)
So one interpretation is
A) that the girl is intentionally making shadows on the wall and making ghost voices and then having the dolls react to her voice and shadows and moving furniture.
BUT ...
B) it seems like those are incidental. Just her moving her hand around to position them etc. But the characters, the dolls, don't have free will. So they can't be reacting to things she doesn't want them to be reacting to. In otherwords if she was playing drug deal, then the drug dealer would have never heard her voice and the story go off in that direction unless she wanted them to, unless she was playing drug deal interrupted by an "excorkism".
Am I making any sense? I mean it would have to be "A" right, and yet the dolls seem to have free will and be reacting to non intentional stimuli from the girl.
This has more complicated layers of meta-reality than the Twilight Zone episode you are homage-ing. In the Twilight Zone episode, the dolls are clearly aware and humans just don't know it. As long as no humans are around they can think and act freely. Here they seem to be doing that but they can't be they are just her puppets.
END SPOILER
Maybe I am way overthinking this - I probably am. But after viewing, it was something that made my head hurt a little.
In any case. I enjoyed the fllm.
Sorry if this has been answered before.
But could you please tell me what lens you were using when the two guys enter the room for the first time?
And can you confirm that as a dolly shot vs. steadicam.
Thanks very much,
Jack
Tim Joy
Veteran
Thanks Jack! I don't think you're over-thinking it...
I have a refrigerator question for you that might help.
Highlight to read
If she's controlling and moving the dolls, and they are both moving, she only has two hands... so who's hand shadow is on the wall? And why does she say, "It's evil."
End refrigerator question
:huh:
I don't have ONE solid interpretation of this. I have 2.
That was a 17mm f4 canon fd lens, on the dolly.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a refrigerator question for you that might help.
Highlight to read
If she's controlling and moving the dolls, and they are both moving, she only has two hands... so who's hand shadow is on the wall? And why does she say, "It's evil."
End refrigerator question
:huh:
I don't have ONE solid interpretation of this. I have 2.
That was a 17mm f4 canon fd lens, on the dolly.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great! I think like a few I was wtf, a crystal ball and a candle, and sure here they are. It was great to see a payoff to those questions, but besides that what a twist. Very cool.
Visually, I thought it could have benefited from some harder lighting to help with the tension and suspense.
Sound, pretty solid all the way, couple of times sound was a little wide sounding when they were a tad too far from the mic.
Visually, I thought it could have benefited from some harder lighting to help with the tension and suspense.
Sound, pretty solid all the way, couple of times sound was a little wide sounding when they were a tad too far from the mic.
sfoster
Well-known member
This was amazing. It reminded me of a short on "On the lot" with a similar ending. I thought the lighting was too "lit for comedy" toward the beginning, but when I saw the end I realized that was the point and I though it was perfect. As an art department guru, I was thinking what the heck are these set dressings. A cardboard cutout? a paper fire place? What is going on? I think this is my favorite of the fest so far.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
More Cowbell Pictures
Yes, the ending reminded me of a few shorts I've seen before. One being On the Lot.
This was fun though. The acting was pretty good and quirky, suiting the end very well. The payoff shot was great! Enjoyed this one.
Cheers,
Mike
This was fun though. The acting was pretty good and quirky, suiting the end very well. The payoff shot was great! Enjoyed this one.
Cheers,
Mike
alex whitmer
Veteran
Man was this a fun piece.
SPOILERS
Agree, so much 'what the' but with a huge payoff. Kid was great, and did a great job - right up there with Boo in To Kill a Mockingbird.
Pacing was nice. Music spot on for the theme. I had a hard time hearing some of the dialogue however.
Set design was very good, fit the story nicely. Fireplace was a kick.
Didn't quite get why the guy stumbles when the door to door preacher arrives. Felt kinda forced there.
Love the opening scene where Anoushka walks to her room, and that mystery figure slumps in the background. Nice suspense set up. Nice tilt of the frame.
Would have like to have seen a different cut from the closing of the bedroom door to the gut laying on the floor, like a close on an eye bursting open - since now the girl would begin to animate things. I don't knwo, it felt off to me fo reasons unknown.
Really like this piece a lot. The Mr. Bill homage at the end is great.
Excellent film.
aw
SPOILERS
Agree, so much 'what the' but with a huge payoff. Kid was great, and did a great job - right up there with Boo in To Kill a Mockingbird.
Pacing was nice. Music spot on for the theme. I had a hard time hearing some of the dialogue however.
Set design was very good, fit the story nicely. Fireplace was a kick.
Didn't quite get why the guy stumbles when the door to door preacher arrives. Felt kinda forced there.
Love the opening scene where Anoushka walks to her room, and that mystery figure slumps in the background. Nice suspense set up. Nice tilt of the frame.
Would have like to have seen a different cut from the closing of the bedroom door to the gut laying on the floor, like a close on an eye bursting open - since now the girl would begin to animate things. I don't knwo, it felt off to me fo reasons unknown.
Really like this piece a lot. The Mr. Bill homage at the end is great.
Excellent film.
aw
Tim Joy
Veteran
I'll have to check out this "On the lot". Haven't heard of it before.
When I sent it to the composer, he said, " Oh yeah, reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode..." and proceeded to tell me the story and I thought, OH $hit, I'm probably just stealing this without even knowing. I fell asleep watching some Twilight Zone and probably picked it up that way. I plead innocence. i think I have a different take on a similar concept. *I hope* anyway.
Alex- Great suggestions. The reason the guys stumbles is because there's a step there. I didn't even think about then, but see it now.
I was wrestling with some of the dialog, especially the scene at the door, which was done in a hurry, and it was raining. The street is only 20 ft away and I wanted it sound like they're inside. I hate ADR,( and there's none in the film), but to clean up those tracks was really tough. I assume that's where you couldn't hear the dialog?
What's the Mr. Bill Homage?
Thanks everyone for your generous comments. i'm smiling ear-to-ear. :laugh:
This is a great fest. Lots of good entries. ... almost watched them all. whew.. it's harder than I thought.
When I sent it to the composer, he said, " Oh yeah, reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode..." and proceeded to tell me the story and I thought, OH $hit, I'm probably just stealing this without even knowing. I fell asleep watching some Twilight Zone and probably picked it up that way. I plead innocence. i think I have a different take on a similar concept. *I hope* anyway.
Alex- Great suggestions. The reason the guys stumbles is because there's a step there. I didn't even think about then, but see it now.
I was wrestling with some of the dialog, especially the scene at the door, which was done in a hurry, and it was raining. The street is only 20 ft away and I wanted it sound like they're inside. I hate ADR,( and there's none in the film), but to clean up those tracks was really tough. I assume that's where you couldn't hear the dialog?
What's the Mr. Bill Homage?
Thanks everyone for your generous comments. i'm smiling ear-to-ear. :laugh:
This is a great fest. Lots of good entries. ... almost watched them all. whew.. it's harder than I thought.
Mile Bozicevic
Well-known member
Great one. A true Twilightfest entry, where nothing is as it seems to be...
There's that part where the preacher/drug dealer realizes hes hearing voices too, and those shots had some weird shadows of the chars. Besides that, there's really nothing to complain; music, acting, idea...it's great that naive 'crystal ball' and already lighten up 'candle' reveal itself at the end.
Once again, great job.
There's that part where the preacher/drug dealer realizes hes hearing voices too, and those shots had some weird shadows of the chars. Besides that, there's really nothing to complain; music, acting, idea...it's great that naive 'crystal ball' and already lighten up 'candle' reveal itself at the end.
Once again, great job.
Steve Strickland
Well-known member
Bravo! A great film with a true Twilight Zone ending.
I loved the the color of this film. The sound design was top notch and really pulled me in. You really pulled of the twist well, I never saw it coming. Really nice work here. Now, I need to go watch it again!
I loved the the color of this film. The sound design was top notch and really pulled me in. You really pulled of the twist well, I never saw it coming. Really nice work here. Now, I need to go watch it again!
Tim Joy
Veteran
...Talk about refrigerator question. Last night, it occured to me, in a creepy twilight-zoney kinda way, that, although his name is never said, in the script, the guy on the kitchen floor is named.... Jack. The other guy's name, which is only said once I think, is... Daniel.
It started to weird me out a little, so I stopped thinking about it.
Darkline
Veteran
Hey,
We loved this. And Im not just saying that because you liked my film ;-)). It just felt right, had a nice mix of humour and twilight-esque vibes kicking in. Loved the shadowy hand throughout.
My favourite line 'get me a crystal ball and a candle'. lol. I'd love to see more of your work. you created a personal world which was very unique to anything else in this fest.
SPOLIER AHEAD :
I will say that the ending is very similar to that twlightlight zone episode where all the dolls relaise they are in a tin. And there was that 'on the lot' episode (if you bothered to watch it...lol) where they all realise they are figures in a doll's house. However, I think twilight zone episodes always lend themselves to one of a few 'types' of endings and I didn't see it coming until the end so you got me.
very nice work.
We loved this. And Im not just saying that because you liked my film ;-)). It just felt right, had a nice mix of humour and twilight-esque vibes kicking in. Loved the shadowy hand throughout.
My favourite line 'get me a crystal ball and a candle'. lol. I'd love to see more of your work. you created a personal world which was very unique to anything else in this fest.
SPOLIER AHEAD :
I will say that the ending is very similar to that twlightlight zone episode where all the dolls relaise they are in a tin. And there was that 'on the lot' episode (if you bothered to watch it...lol) where they all realise they are figures in a doll's house. However, I think twilight zone episodes always lend themselves to one of a few 'types' of endings and I didn't see it coming until the end so you got me.
very nice work.
Kyle Stebbins
AD GURU
The cardboard cutouts reminded me of Science of Sleep. It seemed to be an excellent homage to Michel Gondry. Bravo!
alex whitmer
Veteran
Yes, and could not make out names and which was who.
The final scene where it's a 'clay-mation- esque' reminded me of Mr. Bill.
aw
Tim Joy
Veteran
I'm glad you picked up on that. He is my fav director, and I was definitely paying homage to him with the set design and the "crew-acting" (moving blankets and chairs and shadows and stuff). We were going for a Gondry meets David Lynch style. A little different grading in the living room scene I feel we would be there.
Incidentaly- those cardboard cutouts are the "producer's cameo's" (I'm in the back, stuck the wife up front
). My dad made them for our wedding, so they were the perfect available prop to add a little extra WTF. Darkline-
I'm really glad you liked it. We all worked very hard on it, and it's nice to see such a great response. I never realized how far out of left field the "get me a crystal ball..." line comes from. Everyone seems to like it, especially the speed he comes back with it.
We had a really fun time making this and will get a bunch of BTS stuff posted for all to see.
Thanks to everyone else for the views and the love. :kiss:
Darkline
Veteran
sorry i just read that you already heard about the twilight thing. silly me, sorry for not reading the thread.
Don't worry because you created your own world and that's what I look for when viewing an entry. And even though ive seen this ending before you still caught me off guard which is the sign of a good film-maker.
all the best with it, ive rated it very high.
Don't worry because you created your own world and that's what I look for when viewing an entry. And even though ive seen this ending before you still caught me off guard which is the sign of a good film-maker.
all the best with it, ive rated it very high.