Facing The Giants

Lol! I never assumed anything but your welcome to think I did. I never said anything about Fireproof because I haven't seen it, but you're welcome to assume I did.

you're right I shouldn't assume that, but I can assume you've seen giants from this statement

This thread just got REALLY funny!! Maybe even more funny than the acting in Facing the Giants...or that over 1500 people rate this movie a 10 on imdb, talk about idealogical bias!

if you have seen Giants you're refusal to admit the acting was pretty damn good is in itself Bias, if you have not seen it then that statement shows a clear bias against this GENRE



And tip Jason; I, along with others may take you more seriously if you learn how to spell words like genre and others correctly. I'm telling you this because I'm trying to help you by giving constructive criticism, which is, you you may want to work on your spelling. There is a built in spell check to the forum, so if you'd like to begin it shouldn't be too difficult.

you're correct, and in many ways I find it extremely funny, I have a pretty high IQ i'm in the top 1%. I have multiple degrees, and I have a very very very very large vocabulary (that was a joke by the way) I grew up in a small town, and I suffer from delixia, as a result they didn't bother to try to teach me, they simply stuck me in a room with other "LD kids" and let us play games all day, I tought myself how to read and write because I quickly figurered out they were skills I'd need. I read Moby dick in the first grade, I read everything Mark Twain had published by the end of the third grade. Looking back these were not the best choices in spelling education.

but thank you for the tip, I am always working on my spelling, trying to improve it is without a doubt my most major flaw.

in return, I have a little tip for you, don't make the mistake so many others have, don't judge someones intellients by there spelling ability, because there is a good chance they are smarter than you.
 
In all seriousness, a film like Passion of The Chirst proved there is a potentially huge audience for Christian filmmaking. Even in the past, spectacles like Ben-Hur and Ten Commandments did very well. General audiences are more comfortable seeing historical films that tackle biblical themes. I think it gives them a distance from the subject that allows them to swallow it easier. I think it would be wise for the Christian film industry to take heed of that instead of doing contemporary message films. And If you stick to the old testament you'll get even more of an audience, as your film can appeal to Christians, Jews and Muslims alike. Making niche films that only appeal to a niche audience gives you a niche gross.
 
if you have seen Giants you're refusal to admit the acting was pretty damn good is in itself Bias,

Am I bias in saying I don't think the acting is very good?

I love the Kendricks, and actually had the opportunity to meet Alex about a month ago, and he's been a great encouragement to us here at Coram Deo doing NGL, but I'd say that acting is by FAR the weakest part of the Sherwood film... I actually do like the acting in "Giants" better than in "Fireproof", for some reason it's just more believable to me... but still far from "pretty damn good" as you put it....

Obviously we all have our own opinions, and that happens to be mine... but don't say someone's bias simply for having an opinion you yourself don't hold to :) Thanks.
 
you're right I shouldn't assume that, but I can assume you've seen giants from this statement



if you have seen Giants you're refusal to admit the acting was pretty damn good is in itself Bias, if you have not seen it then that statement shows a clear bias against this GENRE





you're correct, and in many ways I find it extremely funny, I have a pretty high IQ i'm in the top 1%. I have multiple degrees, and I have a very very very very large vocabulary (that was a joke by the way) I grew up in a small town, and I suffer from delixia, as a result they didn't bother to try to teach me, they simply stuck me in a room with other "LD kids" and let us play games all day, I tought myself how to read and write because I quickly figurered out they were skills I'd need. I read Moby dick in the first grade, I read everything Mark Twain had published by the end of the third grade. Looking back these were not the best choices in spelling education.

but thank you for the tip, I am always working on my spelling, trying to improve it is without a doubt my most major flaw.

in return, I have a little tip for you, don't make the mistake so many others have, don't judge someones intellients by there spelling ability, because there is a good chance they are smarter than you.

Exactly what Brandon said. I don't think I'm bias either for not thinking the acting is good in Facing the Giants.

I never said you weren't intelligent, I just said I may not take your posts as seriously if you had put the time into a) take your time to correctly layout grammar and vocabulary, b) reread your posts for mistakes, and last and most importantly c) use the easy and quick spell check took that is built into the forum, it works just like MS word, with the words underlined in red and all. For me, that loans more credibility to your words.

And your last statement, where you incorrectly assumed I may judged your intelligence, states there is a "good chance" that the person is smarter than me. That's a pretty obvious jab at my own own intelligence.

I don't need to list the books I'm currently reading or have gone through and at what ages to try and qualify myself. I could, as we all could, but that would be a trite internet attempt to achieve status. Comments like the one you made about my bias tell me more about your intelligence than if you wrote a list of every book you'd ever read.
 
Jason with the huge flood of Christian music that has come on the market within the last 5 years it is just a matter or time before the tide turns to t.v. and movies.

Not going to bring my personal oppinions into it but now is the time to get on the band wagon, movie wagon or what ever, you know what I mean.

I'm wondering are there any good Jewish movies out there? Ohh, never mind thats everything hollywood makes.

Seriously, there are a lot of people paying attention right now to these "Faith Based" movies and markets, they will have the largest growth in the industry over the next 5-10 years.

I think you're right -- now is the time for filmmakers interested in making Christian features to get in on it. I believe the genre will experience a boom as more and better Christian films are made. Time will tell.
 
I might be one of the first people to do a "Faith Based" horror film for the younger teenage Christian market.

We'll see how it goes, ask me in a year.

I think that's an idea that's long overdue. (I don't consider 'The Exorcist' to be a Christian movie simply because it has Catholic priests as main characters.) I was talking (via email) a couple of years ago with a woman who writes Christian horror novels. It could be a very interesting niche. Good luck!
 
For sure, if Fireproof is making $20 million I can't even imagine what may happen if a Christian film was created by someone with spectacular talent, Oscar type talent, I wouldn't even rule out the possibility of breaking records.

It would be very interesting to see, wouldn't it?

"The List" had some pretty good talent -- including Malcolm McDowall, Will Patton, Pat Hingle and Hilarie Burton. Production values were excellent, but the direction wasn't the best, in my opinion.

Shot on 35mm film, "The List" (based on the novel by Robert Whitlow) had a production budget of about $900,000. Its box office was pitiful because it only ran briefly in a very few theaters, but I think it's probably done quite well on video.
 
rule of thumb, if you're pulled into the story, then the acting is good, there is good and bad acting, no middle ground, no better than good, if it pulls you in keeps you in its good, it doesn't matter if you're dustin hoffman or sylvester stallone, Rocky one and Rambo one were two of the greatest movies of all time and Stallone was amazing in them both, the difference between Stallone and Hoffman is consistency, Hoffman is always a good actor, while stallone did films like cliffhanger rocky 3-whatever rambo 2- whatever, all really bad movies all really poorly acted. Hoffman has never had a poorly acted role i've seen,

in Fireproof I got pulled out of the story from time to time because of the acting, but then they were able to pull me back in.

in Giants I never got pulled out. well the wife pulled me out one time. but all and all I stayed in the story and the acting kept me beliving in it, and there for it was well acted.
 
I think that's an idea that's long overdue. (I don't consider 'The Exorcist' to be a Christian movie simply because it has Catholic priests as main characters.) I was talking (via email) a couple of years ago with a woman who writes Christian horror novels. It could be a very interesting niche. Good luck!

Chappel,

We need to talk!

I can assure you there will no be Church's burning down in my movie. And if it ever did make money it would all be donated back to several good causes / Church's with a small portion withheld to fund the next project and those portions from that movie would go back to the community / Church's.

A "progressive" business model that would make a difference and entertain!

Christian kids would love it! Be scared :) He he he

Ahhh, my teenage years.
 
Chappel,

We need to talk!

I can assure you there will no be Church's burning down in my movie. And if it ever did make money it would all be donated back to several good causes / Church's with a small portion withheld to fund the next project and those portions from that movie would go back to the community / Church's.

A "progressive" business model that would make a difference and entertain!

Christian kids would love it! Be scared :) He he he

Ahhh, my teenage years.

Well the way I look at it, few people have real-world experience with Satan and demons more than Christians do. A friend of mine was working on a feature script for a movie about angels in an epic battle with demons, which I think would be awesome if done on the same scale as something like "Lord of the Rings" or "Chronicles of Narnia".

The trick would be in not alienating your core audience. Most Christians wouldn't want to see blood, gore, heads sawed off, nudity, etc. They would stay away, and the hardcore horror fans would probably avoid it because of its Christian elements.

I could see a good haunting-type Christian movie. In fact, I tried to make one with my first feature, "Afterlife". It's the story of a man being haunted by the ghost of his beloved Christian wife, who is calling to him to join her on 'the other side'. But everything isn't what it seems to be. Just watching the trailer (which is on YouTube), you wouldn't know it had any Christian undertone at all.

Anyway, best of luck to you!
 
It'll be an interesting adventure if I go through with it, I guess I'll have my decision made within 90 days.
 
Chappel,

We need to talk!

I can assure you there will no be Church's burning down in my movie. And if it ever did make money it would all be donated back to several good causes / Church's with a small portion withheld to fund the next project and those portions from that movie would go back to the community / Church's.

A "progressive" business model that would make a difference and entertain!

Christian kids would love it! Be scared :) He he he

Ahhh, my teenage years.


ha, in one of the future segments of the film I'm working on now (assuming I'm able to make future segments,) requires a church burning down, it's an African American church in the 1950s, the film follows two Angels, guiding people over the course of about 150 years starting in the mid 1800s, second ont will be in the 1920s 1950s-60s., modern times. the modern timesone is the one I'm shooting in the next couple weeks.
 
You know, I've always thought doing a horror film dealing with the demonic realm in a realistic way would be extremely frightening... it can be more psychological horror than anything... I hate really gory horror anyway, it's just not very scary to me... but psychological horror is... watch THE SHINING... scariest film I've ever seen... very little gore or blood.
 
Hey Brandon,

I'm just taking a good look at a few things right now like money, commetiment time, locations, actors, many things would have to come together in harmony for me to proceed but it's not out of the question, probably more so than not but just want to make sure.

It would be a faith based psychological horror movie (err, that dosen't sound good:)) but would playout on the screen very well (I think :)). Although made for the Teenage Christian market there would NOT be blood, guts or zombies in it, no gore:)
 
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it can be more psychological horror than anything... I hate really gory horror anyway, it's just not very scary to me... but psychological horror is... watch THE SHINING... scariest film I've ever seen... very little gore or blood.

Totally with you on that one Brandon!

I was going to dress up like Jack Torrance tonight but I couldn't get a jacket like his in time, so I'll be partying tonight as an airlines pilot, how scary!!!!
 
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