Vincent Laforet Canon D5 MKII Film

I've shown it to over a dozen "civilians" included professional still photographers and all they say is they "love it"!


I think whether we like it or not the 30p High Def is here to stay.

In this camera, yeah.

I also dont expect to be watching any major TV dramas or feature films shot on this thing either.
 
You should watch the BTS...they did in fact do handheld. And I'm not convinced of their "gyro" stabilizer. And all the driving footage and heli footage was BUMPY as hell.

They used gyros for a lot of it.

It is right under the cam wrapped in plastic.

I love that damn gyro!

A++++ for the gyro!
 
In this camera, yeah.

I also dont expect to be watching any major TV dramas or feature films shot on this thing either.


Soon enough we will.


The motion picture industry is a business first and foremost.

Whoever leverages the high def look for a competitive advantage will reap the rewards and others will follow.


I think it's time I do an article on distribution channels.


Movie Theaters are Dodos just waiting for the last shoe to drop.
 
30p has nothing to do with a business move or the industry shift; at all. It's not like it costs MORE money to shoot 24p.

Seriously, man. Even I want this debate to go to hell, now.
 
In this camera, yeah.

I also dont expect to be watching any major TV dramas or feature films shot on this thing either.

X-Files would have rocked on the 5D. That show was filmed in the dark. I think the low light quality of the 5D may be better than what they were using.

Kholi hates me already. :-)
 
For what it's worth, my mom, who is not a techie person at all, asked me recently why one of her shows "looked different." It was one of the HGTV shows. I took a look at it and realized they were shooting at 24p rather than the usual 60i or 30p. She didn't like it because she felt like the show was more distant at 24p - it was less real, less immediate. She didn't feel as much like she was there with the people looking at the houses.

I explained to her about the 24p vs 60i/30p thing, and flipped around to one of the movie channels showing a 24fps movie and then to another channel showing sports and she saw exactly what I was talking about...

So I don't think it's really the case that the average person doesn't perceive this stuff, or is indifferent. It might not be a conscious thing, but framerates are a major way of differentiating your content, of subtly pushing it in one direction vs. another. They're all equally artificial, of course, and each has their place. For most of what I shoot, I like 24p. If people feel like 30p is the right thing for them, more power to 'em. But I do think people will realize something's different if they watch a movie shot at 30p.
 
Soon enough we will.


The motion picture industry is a business first and foremost.

Whoever leverages the high def look for a competitive advantage will reap the rewards and others will follow.

Doesn't work that easily. Or else everything would be shot on RED by now.
 
X-Files would have rocked on the 5D. That show was filmed in the dark. I think the low light quality of the 5D may be better than what they were using.

Kholi hates me already. :-)

They shot a lot of things for XFiles 2...Film mainly it appears, Genesis, some HVX. And the 5D would not have given anywhere near the same look.
 
but who cares about this 24p or 30p bizness. Its about the content thats in front of the lens and the talented hands behind camera. If the shi* looks good then the frame rate is the last thing u peeps should stress about.

Too bad it does not work that way. People DO care, regardless of how fantastic your film may be.
 
Who cares again?

I do.

I'm sorry...but if Peter Jackson shot LoTR on video in 30fps...it would have looked like a bad bbc recording of shakespeare. And people would have hated sitting through it for 3 hours. It would have been like watching a video game.

Content is important. Its the basic building block. but you need all the ingredients to make a good stew.

People trying to argue pure content over anything else. I challenge you to to write a script...One that think is of amazing content...and then go make that script...on a fisher price pixelvision camera. And then send that out to the festivals and try and get someone to buy it for distribution...because hey, content rules all right?
 
Doesn't work that easily. Or else everything would be shot on RED by now.


It will.


The hangup is the distribution model.


Right now film in film out.


When we are all digital it won't matter.


In fact, the more high def home theater we have the greater the demand for 30p and beyond will be.


HyperRealism indeed!
 
Nice article. I liked this part.

The camera's HD mode was really easy to shoot with. So easy it was kind of scary. I shot wide open at 1600 ISO the whole time

That looked really great for 1600 ISO. Fantastic.

I hope Canon drops a 24P firmware, otherwise my fingers are crossed that the CHDK folks can work their magic. :)
 
I do.

I'm sorry...but if Peter Jackson shot LoTR on video in 30fps...it would have looked like a bad bbc recording of shakespeare. And people would have hated sitting through it for 3 hours. It would have been like watching a video game.

Content is important. Its the basic building block. but you need all the ingredients to make a good stew.

People trying to argue pure content over anything else. I challenge you to to write a script...One that think is of amazing content...and then go make that script...on a fisher price pixelvision camera. And then send that out to the festivals and try and get someone to buy it for distribution...because hey, content rules all right?

Zapruder Film
 
I took a look at it and realized they were shooting at 24p rather than the usual 60i or 30p. She didn't like it because she felt like the show was more distant at 24p - it was less real, less immediate. She didn't feel as much like she was there with the people looking at the houses

The exact same reason most porn is shot at 60i...Not that I would know or anything.
 
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