HMC150 questions answered...

Kholi said:
so is the 150 more resolute than the 200A definitely?

I was hoping that it wouldn't be the case, sounds like the full raster HVX theory was right..
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Haven't tried that, but I would suspect in 720p mode, yes, in 1080p mode, no, the same. But that's my guess.
 
Barry_Green said:
Depends on what you want to deliver. The 150 is 10x the camera the PD170/VX2000 ever were. But, those are standard-def cameras and the 150 is a high-def-only camera. Sensitivity will probably still be in favor of the PD170/VX2000. Sharpness and grain are going to be way in the 150's favor, especially (way especially) if you want to do 16:9.

But if all you're doing is delivering on standard-def DVD, and your clients are happy with what you're giving them now, why upgrade? If you want to start offering HD weddings then yes, by all means, no waiting and no hesitation I'd say plunge into some 150's. But if you're doing well at what you're doing now, why change?
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Thanks for your input.

How much difference do you think there is in sensitvity without gain?

The main reason I am looking at this is widescreen TVs. Even if Blu-Ray is lagging, people seem to be owning widescreen sets.

And this camera is priced at a decent entry point to start offering HD services and not have to double one's price.
 
Barry_Green said:
HDMI is nice because it allows you to do live uncompressed video streaming to, say, a BlackMagic Intensity Pro capture card.
For live capture, perhaps. For footage that's already been recorded, no.
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Thanks Barry. So you are saying that after I have recorded footage on a card, the quality would be the same whether I capture through an Intensity Card or Long and Transfer ? So the 4:2:2 from the HMC is only doable through live HDMI capturing? But in all reality for weddings and events will there be a big difference in 4:2:2 or 4:2:0? I don;t do much color keying so that's not gona be a problem.

Can you shoot in 1080P at 60 frames per second, or is that on available in 720P mode?

Thanks again,

B.p.
 
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PowerPC workflow :)

PowerPC workflow :)

Well I am exited I figured out the workflow for a powerPC Mac !!!

VoltaicHD is your only and great option! It's not bad at all simple interface to use, pretty fast for me at least and it's only like 30$ so for now until Apple does something for us PowerPC users this works took me about 3 min for a 14MB file seems decent anyway's I am happy for now so dont be scared of AVCHD it's our friend :)

I am running a Dual 1.8Ghz PowerPC with 3GB of ram if anyone cares to compare...:beer:
 
avenue said:
Well I am exited I figured out the workflow for a powerPC Mac !!!

VoltaicHD is your only and great option! It's not bad at all simple interface to use, pretty fast for me at least and it's only like 30$ so for now until Apple does something for us PowerPC users this works took me about 3 min for a 14MB file seems decent anyway's I am happy for now so dont be scared of AVCHD it's our friend :)

I am running a Dual 1.8Ghz PowerPC with 3GB of ram if anyone cares to compare...:beer:
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Hmmm. so according to my calculations it would only take about 79 hrs to transcode 2 hrs of 720p 60!
 
psts said:
Hmmm. so according to my calculations it would only take about 79 hrs to transcode 2 hrs of 720p 60!
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ya I guess but I shoot skateboarding mostly. Just short clips so it's work out for me just fine but if your filming a wedding have fun! time to get a Intel mac....
 
David S. said:
Do not count on Apple to change its specs that require FCP 6 and an Intel Mac.

That's in all probability will not change.
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Easy way for them to force people into upgrading right? oh well I can hold off until the next imac updates in a year or so... until then I will just shoot and convert.. at least the quality seemed quit nice I should post one of barry's clips converted usng my set up to show people what they can expect using PowerPC's
 
Maybe there will be a 3rd party software made for power pc that will be more efficient than voltaic. Maybe like from the makers of Raylight- this seems right up their alley. I didn't hear that from them- just guessing
 
psts said:
Maybe there will be a 3rd party software made for power pc that will be more efficient than voltaic. Maybe like from the makers of Raylight- this seems right up their alley. I didn't hear that from them- just guessing
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Well anything faster would be appreciated and welcomed with open arms :)
 
Kholi said:
so is the 150 more resolute than the 200A definitely?

I was hoping that it wouldn't be the case, sounds like the full raster HVX theory was right..
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Please remember that the resolution charts that I posted are only good as a general guide. Without other cameras being tested at the same time under the same conditions, we are looking at a number in a vacuum.

At this point in time, all I have is a guess that the HMC-150 will resolve either the same or maybe slight more then the HVX-200. The idea of slightly more is based on the same exact number of pixels on the CCDs (HVX-200 vs. HMC-150), but a slightly bigger CCD on the HMC-150 might increase resolution. However, there are other factors that come into play here, so I could be wrong.


Bob Diaz
 
David S. said:
Do you think that Panasonic will also sell this in the consumer box stores, or stores like onecall.com?
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does onecall.com carry DVX's or VX's or any prosumer camera's ??? if not then my guess would no but you never know What's wrong with B&H? 3500 is reasonable in my opinion considering the quality you can get out of this camera...
 
impressive creations said:
So you are saying that after I have recorded footage on a card, the quality would be the same whether I capture through an Intensity Card or Long and Transfer ?
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Yes, it should be approximately the same.

So the 4:2:2 from the HMC is only doable through live HDMI capturing?
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Correct, just like the EX1 and all HDV cameras, the only way to get 4:2:2 is to capture the live feed before it gets compressed.

But in all reality for weddings and events will there be a big difference in 4:2:2 or 4:2:0? I don;t do much color keying so that's not gona be a problem.
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Then I'd say you shouldn't even worry about it at all.

Can you shoot in 1080P at 60 frames per second, or is that on available in 720P mode?
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No conventional video camera records 1080/60P that I know of. On the 150 your choices are 720/60p or 1080/60i.

Either is completely suitable for shooting live events, but I'd go for "p" over "i" whenever possible. I think the 720/60p stuff I've shot looks fantastic.
 
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