EX3 $8320 at B&H

Now if we can only convince the Letus Guys to go lower with the price on the new Ultimate. Let's see Sony says $13,000 but retails for $8,400 - 64% of the original price tag. So that would mean the Ultimate says $4500 but could we get it for $2900?

Think you can work some magic Phillip?
 
Howdy...

If anyone is selling their EX1 to get an EX3, please drop me a line and let me know. I'm looking for one...

Best,

Ben
 
Confirmed Ex3 MSRP $9999. Street price $8320.
comes with 1x free 8 gig SXS card. NO free 8 gig SXS card rebate though. Available end of July.
 
Fantastic price for what will be an ass kicking camera. I will defnately be getting one, and all I need to do now is find out how much they will be in the UK.

If there is that much of a difference, NY here I come. £400 for 3 nights inc flights and decent hotel. The saving will make it well worth it.

So what will be Panasonics response? I don't think they will have one, certainly not immediately. Which is a shame as if there is tough competition we all win. Think at the moent its game, set and match to Sony.
 
Dxmetal said:
Confirmed Ex3 MSRP $9999. Street price $8320.
comes with 1x free 8 gig SXS card. NO free 8 gig SXS card rebate though. Available end of July.
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Hoo Hoo Hoo, :Drogar-Happy(DBG):

Looks like it might be a Christmas trip for me again this December...
 
by the way, i got confirmation from an official SOny Dealer and not from B&H. So yes, the price is indeed $8320 which include:

the cam body
the lens
1x 8 gig SxS card.

1/2" Full HD Cam mini shoulder mount cam
TC/IN/OUT
Interchangeable Lens
high res LCD
Flippable image for you with a non flip 35mm adapter
external HD option

Not to mention with the size and the weight of this camera (compared to say the hpx500), you dont have to spend $$$$$$$ for new tripod, $$$$ pro batt & charger, a more expensive Steadicam with higher capacity weight or paying major $$$$ for underwater housing. You get all the luxury of a pro 2/3" cam without all the hassle and 2/3" price. Save the money for the 2/3" Scarlet instead.
 
2 things I can see Panasonic doing:

1- Bundle the HPX500 with an HD lens for 11 000 USD, or Developing a Leica Dicomar for the HPX500 bringing it to 10 000 USD.

2- Bring Down the HPX500 body with rebates to 6000 USD.

This would be a fantastic deal, and great for us end users. As of now, being my next camera purchase next November (decided to keep original HVX200 for the moment), my decision is leaning towards an EX3.
 
Yeah, Abel has them for a similar price, the price is legit. I wonder if Sony scanned the boards and saw all of us laughing at an EX-3 for $13k list. Nobody would have bought or at least very few. For $8k, that seem like decent value.

Why can't Sony put a global shutter on the EX-3? That would make it basically pretty close to the perfect camera. But with the rolling shutter artifacting, I'll have to take a pass. Company I am shooting a lot for has two EX-1s and I can use them daily. EX-3 looks nice but not for my style.

I wish buying an HPX 500 didn't add up to so much, it really is amazing how an $8,000.00 body will end up costing you $30k out of pocket.

Dan
 
SPZ, I don't think either one of those options would be economically viable. Perhaps the second one would make more sense.

I would love for that to happen, odds are it won't. Interesting how the market works though.

The HPX500 I was very interested in. Until I realized it would kill me before I had it running. And for that money I would buy something else.

I've never had a problem with the CMOS chip, even with my HV20.
 
I really can't understand how people do not have issues with the rolling shutter.
I read amazing things about the EX-1, the first 2 times I used it was on a tripod and I felt in love. Awesome LCD, sharp images and very sensitive. Hand down better than the HVX.
Next time I shot handheld and it was a disaster.
I'm quite stable and conservative with my moves. 25% of the footage was unusable.
The EX-3 is the perfect camera, if you always use it on a tripod.
 
alexdias said:
I really can't understand how people do not have issues with the rolling shutter.

The EX-3 is the perfect camera, if you always use it on a tripod.
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I dont know bro, maybe you can email Doug Liman, Steven Soderbergh, Peter Jackson & Tony Richmond and ask them how they can live with a rolling shutter digital camera.

Unless you are doing a 'Blair witch revival", You can also mount the camera on a steadicam.

The rolling shutter thing is way overblown on "internet forums". If you shoot exclusively a lot of events and music videos, then CCD cameras are more suitable for your needs. I have yet had a shoot on a "controlled environment" that deemed a rolling shutter camera useless.

Lets be sure of one thing, THERE ARE NO PERFECT CAMERA OUT THERE. IF SUCH ANIMAL EXISTS, EVERYBODY ALREADY HAVE 2 OF EM.

Learn your camera, knows its weaknesses and take advantage of its pluses.
 
SPZ said:
2 things I can see Panasonic doing:

1- Bundle the HPX500 with an HD lens for 11 000 USD, or Developing a Leica Dicomar for the HPX500 bringing it to 10 000 USD.

2- Bring Down the HPX500 body with rebates to 6000 USD.

This would be a fantastic deal, and great for us end users. As of now, being my next camera purchase next November (decided to keep original HVX200 for the moment), my decision is leaning towards an EX3.
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You and I wish. But that ain't gonna happen. Panasonic isn't as cut-throat as Canon and now Sony. They would be cutting into their "other markets" by making the HPX500 any cheaper than it is and right now it's pretty much "Hey this is a 2/3" vs 1/2" and DVCproHD ah ooh ah hey".

Dan's right, the HPX500 expensive is a hefty one.
 
Dxmetal said:
Lets be sure of one thing, THERE ARE NO PERFECT CAMERA OUT THERE. IF SUCH ANIMAL EXISTS, EVERYBODY ALREADY HAVE 2 OF EM.

Learn your camera, knows its weaknesses and take advantage of its pluses.
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Agreed. I'm 100% with you on it.

I don't want to create more controversy. I was just very surprised how substantial and present this issue was. I'm talking about my own experience, if so what I have read before on the net was mostly good news.
And like I said my moves are anything but Blair Witch. Trust me on that.
Mainly, I was disappointed because I really liked the camera otherwise.
 
Kholi said:
You and I wish. But that ain't gonna happen. Panasonic isn't as cut-throat as Canon and now Sony. They would be cutting into their "other markets" by making the HPX500 any cheaper than it is and right now it's pretty much "Hey this is a 2/3" vs 1/2" and DVCproHD ah ooh ah hey".

Dan's right, the HPX500 expensive is a hefty one.
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I'm looking forward to learn the prices of the new series of low cost 2/3" lenses form Canon and Fuji.
Even then we're talking about some 25K + for a full package.
 
alexdias said:
I really can't understand how people do not have issues with the rolling shutter.
I read amazing things about the EX-1, the first 2 times I used it was on a tripod and I felt in love. Awesome LCD, sharp images and very sensitive. Hand down better than the HVX.
Next time I shot handheld and it was a disaster.
I'm quite stable and conservative with my moves. 25% of the footage was unusable.
The EX-3 is the perfect camera, if you always use it on a tripod.
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What I decided to do was to have 2 different cameras going forward. This is what I think everyone's talking about - there is no perfect camera. Get an EX1 or EX3 for dollys, stead shots, close ups, and anything that doesn't involve lots of movement and strobing. Then buy a used XL-H1 or HVX200 for quick pans, movement shots, strobing shots, etc. I think it can work well because with all of that movement you won't be able to see a loss in resolution.

I shot my last movie with the Sony V1U which is a CMOS sensor that delivers to tape. I also shot a wedding with it as well and every time the flash of the photographer went off the was the rolling artifact was visable. When we shot the movie, we never had a problem.

Great thing is that once you get your package together, you can use the monitors, letus35, etc on both cameras. And if you only need the second for every blue moon typs of use, then you should be able to get through most applications. - But I'm basically a movie person. I only do video to support the movie stuff I do.
 
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