Is this the best time to buy the HVX200?

should also think about the hpx170, lighter version of hvx, complete solid state, more output features too.

as for response of blu ray taking the market.

small percentage of the united states are hd tv owners. even smaller percentage around the world are hd tv owners. a lot of countries don't even get high def channels. i've worked in retail in selling electronics for many years to pay the bills while i'm still in school, a lot of people who buy hd tv's simply get it for high def sports, and they'd rather shell out 100 bux or less for a up res dvd player than blu ray (as stated by david). as long as people feel like they don't need it, and blu ray is just an high en option, blu ray isn't going to "take over" dvd. i mean if people are willing to watch endless amounts of youtube content quality isn't the biggest issue on people's minds.
 
"Just buy the sony ex-1, I'm glad I couldn't buy the hvx200 until now"

Do you mean you are glad you've waited because there are other options available like the EX1? Or are you glad the hvx200 is now $400 off w/16g P2?

I guess I don't understand your statement...

I called the company I bought my 200 from and they do a 30 day exchange..>They don't have any A models in stock yet or showing as "coming soon." My sales guy said he would call if they get any in or within 30 days I can take my money back and grab one from somewhere else.

I am not, at this point, considering other models...just trying to make the decision between the 200 and 200A.

Has the model's time come and gone?
 
B&H is selling the 200 for $5099 right now. I am planning to buy that one in two more weeks, maybe if I wait a little longer it will be cheaper, at least seems like it.
 
That's about what I payed at J&R. They also covered shipping...

Do all of them come with Barry Green's book now? (Mine did and I couldn't be happier, it'll be my Bible for the next while:)) I thought that was a very specific promotion through the site.

J
 
Unless you need a camera right away, I would wait to see how the Scarlet is going to be like since it's supposed to be cheaper and shoot higher quality video. It will be at least another year of waiting though.

Kak Lee
www.myspace.com/kaklee
 
gabriel817 said:
B&H is selling the 200 for $5099 right now. I am planning to buy that one in two more weeks, maybe if I wait a little longer it will be cheaper, at least seems like it.
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Please note that this package is the AG-HVX200, not the 200A. I know this since the camera is being advertised with the $400 rebate.

We have a store demo camera (AG-HVX200) that is in like new condition with the full 1-year warranty for $4895. It comes with the free 16GB card, HVX Book and we'll even throw in an extra battery and the $400 rebate!

Best regards,

Andrew Hoffman
 
Better Listen to Andrew! Or he might spank your hands.

Seriously, Spec-Comm is THE place to buy your camera from if you're going HVX200 or 200A. I'd highly recommend you got 200A, though. :B
 
"Better Listen to Andrew! Or he might spank your hands."

Like he said...or like I did! I just bought a 200A from Andrew today:) Thanks Andrew, I am looking forward to tomorrow (overnight delivery)

My wife is going to kill me! A 200 and a 200A, I have no idea what to tell here:)

Jeremy
 
is this the right time to buy the hvx?

is this the right time to buy the hvx?

Barry_Green said:
I tihnk you're off on that guess by about six years (as in, blu-ray will "replace" standard DVDs in maybe 8 years at the earliest.) It won't even be the "majority" format for at least five years. Try reading the Kagan report on media adoption and high-def DVDs. You might be a little surprised.
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when you say 8 years, do you mean 8 years for the large markets and maybe longer for small markets (like where i live) or is it 8 years for the entire country?

:dankk2:
 
I mean it'll be at least 8 years before DVD fades away and blu-ray is the primary media that people watch movies on.

Personally, I don't think it'll ever happen; I think downloads will take over and blu-ray will be a flop on par with LaserDisc. But if it *does* catch on, it'll be years and years before it's the main medium.
 
docrock said:
"Just buy the sony ex-1, I'm glad I couldn't buy the hvx200 until now"

Do you mean you are glad you've waited because there are other options available like the EX1? Or are you glad the hvx200 is now $400 off w/16g P2?

I guess I don't understand your statement...
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You've got it right on the first one pal.
 
Barry_Green said:
I mean it'll be at least 8 years before DVD fades away and blu-ray is the primary media that people watch movies on.

Personally, I don't think it'll ever happen; I think downloads will take over and blu-ray will be a flop on par with LaserDisc. But if it *does* catch on, it'll be years and years before it's the main medium.
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Darn................. you say this a day before my PS3 arrives. :kali: ...................... :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG).

OK, I'll go on record as stating blu-ray will be the dominant "new release" format in region 1 in less than 3 years. :cheesy:

ciao baby
JohnG
 
"dominant" defined as ? I'd assume you mean that more copies of any given title will be sold as blu-ray than as DVD? And, how much less than 3 years?

I still think blu-ray is "The Next LaserDisc". If we're gonna have optical media delivery at all, it's gonna be a cheap red ray system, whether Red's own or some VMD version from the Chinese manufacturers...
 
Barry_Green said:
"dominant" defined as ? I'd assume you mean that more copies of any given title will be sold as blu-ray than as DVD? And, how much less than 3 years?

I still think blu-ray is "The Next LaserDisc". If we're gonna have optical media delivery at all, it's gonna be a cheap red ray system, whether Red's own or some VMD version from the Chinese manufacturers...
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Correct, I was referring to "major" movies, not small/tiny indies which may not even get a blu-ray release.

Your comment about the "Next LaserDisc" gave me a bit to consider. I owned a LaserDisc system and was quite dissapointed in the IQ and sound quality. It was a doomed medium from the beggining due to the quality, size, and availability of releases. Yes, it was a doomed format.

Re a "cheap red ray" system....................... my guess is that this won't happen due to the major studios reluctance to fracture the distribution system again. I VERY highly doubt studios will sign up for another format war. On the other hand, small indies may use something like this.

I do agree that the big threat is fiber delivery. I suspect this will happen eventually, but the content IQ will neccessarily be dumbed down due to BW issues. I will conceed that somewhere down the road fiber delivery will take over.

Regards
JohnG
 
HAHAHA, yeah Blu-ray will become laserdisc. Wow that's a really stupid thing to say, with growth as good as it has been, and considering there's basically no chance of us having 1080p downloads ANY time soon. Do you realize what that requires? To download files that could be 20, 30, 50 gigs, etc.? You can hold 200 gigs on a Blu-ray disc, technologically, it can be 8-layered. Standard would have 50, but even that would take a long freakin' time to download for most people. I get 1 meg a second download rate, that's about as fast as you can get with cable, but even still that's 1,000 seconds per 1 gig, ouch. Nobody has the patience for that. Plus people like physical media, a lot of people, not just old people. It's this really stupid new age idea that everyone wants to own movies on their hard drives.

First off, you have the download issue, the only solution to that, literally the only one currently, is fiber optic cables. Those are years from being put in every major city, let alone everywhere in the U.S. That will be a massive undertaking.

Second, hard drive space. How do you propose that someone like me will be able to hold the 2,000 to 2,200 DVD discs that I own, even though they're not HD, on a hard drive? I want them double-backed up, just like my iTunes collection, because hard drives are a LOT less reliable than physical media like a DVD. Do you realize how much data storage space that is? Hard drives are getting bigger but they're not getting that much bigger. My computer 3 years ago came standard with 500 gig internals. Now you can get 1 TB internals pretty easily, so double the space "standard" in three years. I don't think we're going to get to like 500 terabytes anytime soon, which is what I'd need to store the Blu-ray collection I'll have.

I'm sorry but the ignorant Bill Gates-like comments about how the future is in downloads really is ridiculous to anyone who has done any research or thought about it at all.
 
Dude.. out of every comment, you have made the only two stupid comments on the whole thread and it was backed up by everyone else telling you, and then you go ahead and insult one cool bro.. the smartest guy on this forum.. and someone who has been right more times than I can count. Coupled with being the most informed and generous with his time.


You are clearly WRONG. Blue Ray is a dud and will continue to be. If it weren't, there would be tons and tons of people buying the burners. Who do you even know who has one? It's not a matter of the disk prices either or the burners.. it's that people don't give a crap about it. I know I had an expensive DVD burner when they came out and paid nearly 10 bucks a DVD.. and was happy to do it, as there was DEMAND.


As stated, the fastest growing device in this whole thing are up-converting DVD players. The stuff looks great on an HD TV and people have invested a lot into their DVDs so why give them up for something that hasn't been widely adopted and will be the laser disk of this decade. SHoot I think it might actually be the Laser Cassette, and I have one of those in my shed for laughs and giggles...


Downloading HD content is going to be so widespread and viable. It'll also be compressed and optimized. Haven't you seen the quality you can get from the Apple HD trailers.. the 480p HD stuff even looks great and that streams.. So yes, this will be another more viable option.


I'd say if you were a betting man, you'd be the only one going for blueray. IT's a dud for sure.. Apple jumps on anything that looks like a surefire innovation like they did with firewire, and they ain't touching blueray. IT's a piece of old news.


So in closing show some respect and realize that you are the minority in your thinking and you also probably have erroneously thrown away your DVDs and have invested in blueray disks and a PS3. That's the other tell tale sign.. that's the only player that's selling...
 
kakfilm said:
Unless you need a camera right away, I would wait to see how the Scarlet is going to be like since it's supposed to be cheaper and shoot higher quality video. It will be at least another year of waiting though.

Kak Lee
www.myspace.com/kaklee
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It's still so speculative... and it's also using CMOS technology.. so thanks, but NO thanks.
And why not make money for a year instead of sitting on the fence...? just bad mojo there.
 
JonathanLB said:
To download files that could be 20, 30, 50 gigs, etc.? You can hold 200 gigs on a Blu-ray disc, technologically, it can be 8-layered. Standard would have 50, but even that would take a long freakin' time to download for most people.
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A standard def DVD would take a heck of a long time to download too. That doesn't mean the only way to watch a standard def video over the internet is to shove 25mb/sec through your internet connection.

I could certianly see BD becoming a great archive format, especially for footage that wasn't shot on tape in the first place.

But for the typical consumer who has gone through purchasing their favorite movies on VHS and then again on DVD are going to at least think twice before dumping yet another movie collection so they can dish out more money.

Combine that with the fact that some upconverting DVD players look realy good; like good enough that most consumers couldn't distinguish it from bluray unless you put the two side by side.

I don't think BD will flounder as badly as laserdisc, simply because the potential it provides for data storage, but it definitely will not do as well as SD-DVD did.
 
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