What does the DVX have that the HV-20 doesn't?

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Tobus

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What does the DVX have that the HV20 doesn't?

Manual focus/zoom and the ability to have an XLR input?

Are there attachments for the HV20 that make it as good as the DVX100b?

Thanks!
 
Real 24p/pa. 30p. XLR inputs, more coustom settings, scene file settings, user files, better mic (not an onboard). Larger lcd, better colors. More ways to tweak your image. Everrything
 
True manual focus, true manual zoom, a pro audio subsection with XLR connectors with phantom power and line/mic switchable.
 
Oh, so couldn't you just say Manual Zoom in stead of true? Or is that the proper wording.

I understand the "true 24p" and the "native widescreen".

Thanks
 
some manual zooms are just rings connected to a servo that controls the lens, much like the focus ring on the HVX it controls a servo (and does a damn good job at it too). A true manual zoom is mechanically connected to the lens, no servos involved ala the dvx/hvx.
 
The HV20 has one thing the DVX doesnt tho, RESOLUTION!!! but other than that the DVX owns it in every other aspect... Im still going to try and make a little cine camera rig with the HV20 or something similar and cheap like it. No if you are capturing to a firestore, I have one of the original FS40s but the new ones to my understanding can capture HDV codec in variable frame rates, there for can you capture using the FS40HD or 60 or 100 or what ever with the HV20 in 24p? I have seen it work with 24p with the HD250's at DVexpo, could it work with the HV20? hmmm...


Jon
 
HV20's can actually be had for really cheap. I agree that the DVX is a much nicer camera in nearly every regard but you can also pull full HD out of an HV20 for sub $1000. But I would go with the DVX. The manual controls and adjustments you can make are ridiculous.
 
As far as I know the HV20 IS 24p. The HV30 (NTSC model) has 24p and 30p.

I think it's quiet a good camera for the price (and a great b-cam for the hvx hopefully - I'm finding out soon).
 
If you're shooting with a 35mm adapter--and isn't everyone these days?--then the DVX's additional manual controls become irrelevant.

Once you're using the HV20 + 35mm adapter, you use the lens for manual focus and manual iris. The picture is much better than the DVX. And the HV20 is lighter and cheaper. You're just missing an XLR port. But you can use a jack to adapt XLR mics to the HV20 or rent a Beach-Tek.
 
Of course, if you're comparing the HV20 + 35mm adapter to the DVX, then you really need to compare it to the DVX + 35mm adapter. ;) And there, according to many members of this board, the DVX will have just as much of an advantage as it does over the stock HV20.

Plus, and understand that I use a GL2 with a Beachtek fairly frequently, and am fairly happy with the results--but the Beachtek is no substitute for the DVX's audio inputs and the unparalleled flexibility of how to route them. I know that the XL1S's audio inputs don't match the DVX, and the feeling I get from reading the XH-A1 forum suggests that they don't either (although I don't own one and therefore know for sure), so I can't imagine that an HV20 with a Beachtek can get even close...
 
Oh my god! my senior video teacher last year got a hv20. I was excited (this was before I had my dvx) I picked it up and saw the focus knob or wheel. Have you guys seen that thing? I used a GL2 the rest of the class, I opted for a GL2!! HV20 is for soccer dad's that watch pixelated sd tv on their 60 inch 1080p tv. It's a consumer toy.
 
I use an HV20 mainly because i have no money and its a legit camera for what it is. I'm a college student, and I can borrow DVX/GL2's without too much hassle from the university. Lately i've been thinking about selling the HV20 and putting some of that money toward buying a DVX or XL2. HD is completely worthless to me. 24p and 16:9 capabilities are extremely important however. While the dvx doesn't have native 16:9, it has everything else that an indie filmmaker could want:
Manual focus, zoom, iris/shutter speed adjustments, xlr output, white balance. 24/30p/60i ect.

While i barely touched on its features, it already goes to show, there's a damn good reason that this camera has been popular for years, still is, and will be for a while. Its an awesome camera. There are more and more people like me nowadays who are realizing, who gives a F*ck about HD!?!? Its worthless. It eats up your hard drive space/ RAM, nobody has a blueray disc burner, nobody has a blueray disc player. the best you can do is downgrade the quality for some dumb website like VIMEO.

LONG LIVE THE DVX100!!!
 
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