Panasonic Announces New HPX-170

That is really cool Barry. The more info comes available the more excited I get about the 170. Also the improvement of the battery you mention is very nice. :thumbsup:


That's pretty much a good summation. You missed the best little unexpected update: it can now play back pretty much all clips regardless of what format they were shot in!
 
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I'm thinking it's probably going to be very similar to the HVX200, so I might revise The HVX Book to include the new changes and make it one tome that covers both units...

Yeah, I mean, if you update the book to cover the HVX200a, the HPX170 is so close, that just even having the HVX200a covered would probably be enough. But that would be cool to make one book that covers both cameras.

Anyways, thanks for thinking ahead. Your books are invaluable.

As for the HPX170, I'm wondering, if you hook up an external LCD for monitoring (as many HVX users do), do all 4 of the focus assists as well as all the other camera info show up on this monitor as well?

That's actually a silly question since the HPX170 isn't out yet, but does this happen on the HVX200?
 
Yeah, I mean, if you update the book to cover the HVX200a, the HPX170 is so close, that just even having the HVX200a covered would probably be enough. But that would be cool to make one book that covers both cameras.

Anyways, thanks for thinking ahead. Your books are invaluable.

As for the HPX170, I'm wondering, if you hook up an external LCD for monitoring (as many HVX users do), do all 4 of the focus assists as well as all the other camera info show up on this monitor as well?

That's actually a silly question since the HPX170 isn't out yet, but does this happen on the HVX200?

Very good question. Do the waveforms, etc output to an external? That would also be pretty sweet.
 
EX LCD from what I've heard is great, but I've never had much of a problem with the HVX LCD.... 3 different focus assists and actually staying on instead of cutting off, on the 170 is good enough for me. Need more... get an external.

Later,
Jason
 
I sat through the Panasonic HD camera seminar (which dealt mostly with the HPX-3000). But they mentioned that, although they had discontinued the 8G card, they were now going to bring it back. The reason for this (well, one example...) was, in the case of having to send out just a little footage, it would be more advantageous to send it on an 8G card opposed to a 32G (or 64G, etc...).

It would certainly be a nice gesture to include an 8G card with the HPX-170 & the HMC-150 when they ship.
 
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What about the 1080p, is it only through the HD-SDI or also to P2?

Would someone like to step up and answer the question about how 1080p is recorded with this camera?
 
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What about the 1080p, is it only through the HD-SDI or also to P2?

Would someone like to step up and answer the question about how 1080p is recorded with this camera?

I imagine it's just like the HVX, recording to P2 cards
 
Man, the 170 sure looks to be a winner... I sure hope the released version is rock solid from the get-go and not plagued with any niggling problems like the EX1 has been; the dough in my pocket for a new cam has been burning furiously since last August.

As fantastic as the Scarlet sounds, vapor takes time to condense and it's looking like 10 to 18 months before the possibility of getting one to actually shoot with exists. Bummer, 'cause I was hoping RED would really surprise, no I take that back, SHOCK everyone with a summer or fall release date.
 
I never had any problems the few times I used the EX1. Having said that I never heard of much of anyone having problems with the HVX, or DVX for that matter, so it would stand to reason that these new cams, especially considering that they're at least somewhat rooted in the HVX (and DVX I suppose) that they should be pretty solid from version 1.
 
I imagine it's just like the HVX, recording to P2 cards

The HVX only does 1080i not 1080p.

The article mentions 1080p at the beginning
Fully solid-state, the two-slot HPX170 is a 1080p capable camcorder that offers the compelling advantages of P2 technology including: no moving parts unlike tape, hard disk drive, or disc-based systems; instant random access to recorded HD or SD content;

But later it only mentions 1080i not 1080p
The multi-format camera records in 20 HD and SD formats; in a variety of 1080i and 720p formats in DVCPRO HD, in 480i in DVCPRO50 and DVCPRO, and in 480i in DV. It’s switchable between 16:9/4:3 aspect ratios. The HPX170 offers a 20-step frame rate selection in 720p mode for variable-speed shooting in the 12fps to 60fps range to acquire fast- or slow-motion in-camera effects.
 
The HVX only does 1080i not 1080p.

The article mentions 1080p at the beginning
Fully solid-state, the two-slot HPX170 is a 1080p capable camcorder that offers the compelling advantages of P2 technology including: no moving parts unlike tape, hard disk drive, or disc-based systems; instant random access to recorded HD or SD content;

But later it only mentions 1080i not 1080p
The multi-format camera records in 20 HD and SD formats; in a variety of 1080i and 720p formats in DVCPRO HD, in 480i in DVCPRO50 and DVCPRO, and in 480i in DV. It’s switchable between 16:9/4:3 aspect ratios. The HPX170 offers a 20-step frame rate selection in 720p mode for variable-speed shooting in the 12fps to 60fps range to acquire fast- or slow-motion in-camera effects.

Haven't we beaten this dead horse enough?!?
 
Buck the camera records 1080 24p and 30p over a 1080 60i signal, hence recording formats like 1080i 24p. As matthew has mentioned its been discussed a few times before if you want more info on it and the pulldown it uses. The DVCProHD codec does not support 1080p only 1080i.
 
Actually, though, that brings up a thought: Why no 1080p/24pN yet? Is that something that DVCproHD can't handle or what?
Nope.

DVCPRO-HD 1080 can only record a interlaced stream. But the HVX200 shoots, and has always shot - from day one - true honest to god 1080p .. how it records it is been the point of confusion.

- Mikko
 
Nope.

DVCPRO-HD 1080 can only record a interlaced stream. But the HVX200 shoots, and has always shot - from day one - true honest to god 1080p .. how it records it is been the point of confusion.

- Mikko

Oh okay that was the HPX3000 that could do 1080p/24pN yeah?

Just wonderin' if there was ever going to be a Native mode for that. Ah well!
 
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