Panasonic Announces New HPX-170

Huy Vu said:
True, but will that be enough difference for the consumer? If there isn't one huge selling point that differentiate the two cameras, people will always go for the newer version assuming that it's better. On the other hand, if this is an A1/G1 situation, where the 170 is basically a higher priced version of the "basic" HVX model, then I'm willing to bet that it's not gonna do well. Very few people wanted the pay an extra $2000 for the G1's jackpack, and I doubt they would want to pay just for waveform monitor.
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And if the 170 is higher priced, you may be right. But I'm betting it's lower priced. Panasonic has not, that I'm aware of, ever introduced a new model with a lower model number, and charged more than an existing higher-model number.

100B: $2995.
150: "under $4500".
170: ? Presumably over $4500 and under $5995
200: $5995
500: $14,000
2000: $27,000
3000: $48,000.

As the model number goes up, so does the price. I could be wrong, but I think the 170 will be less expensive than the 200A. It just makes sense.
 
When I originally saw the 170 I thought it looked kind of bare. But when you consider all of the stuff people usually trick these out with; matte box, monitor, rails etc, I think it will look pretty nice.

Swapping the DV tape drive for HD-SDI out and a better imager are some very good moves. There is a lot to like here, I think this will be a very popular camera.
 
poweredbyjolt said:
Does anyone else think these new panny's look cheap? I look at it and I just think they missed the mark.
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Yes it does look cheap .... but remember this is a mockup. The final model may look different. Notice the buttons under the lcd screen on the picture, they are made of cardboard!! haha and the lettering is peeling off. The hvx200 looked similar as a mockup but changed when the final model came out. they added the speaker on the viewfinder side and some other things I can't quite remember.
 
The focus/Iris switch seems cool. Could be useful to us adapter guys. Set your back focus and switch the ring to iris. What I really want on these suckers is a nice lcd screen. With 3 new cams all coming out at the same time there's a good opportunity to simply give them all the same nice sharp lcd. Come on Panasonic stop making videos bragging about your 17" and make a useable inbuilt lcd! (The hvx's is semi usable)
 
I will need to check it out today (oh it's late in NV). Could be a sweet deal for someone just getting into HD.
 
wasn't the hvx200 announced for fall too, 3 years ago? with panasonic users experience, when do u think the 170 will be available? december?
 
No word on the LCD?
If this camera can match the EX-1 in Low light, Low noise, and LCD-
I might consider coming back to Panasonic. I hope so.
But for some reason I just feel this camera might be a transition camera before the real deal- The sony EX1 is so good and it's stealing P2 thunder- panasonic had to react-?
 
So this is still a mock up? Thought it was final.

The HVX didn't look that different either from mock up to final to be honest...or maybe i just dont remember....
 
Of all the cameras, this one has me the most excited. If it's using the same imager as the HVX200a, and if it falls between the HMC150 and HVX200a, then I may just get this. I hope there's more info on pricing, features, etc...

After reading Barry's article on the HVX200a's new features, this cam or the HVX200a has really got me interested.
 
I like the HPX170 because it's basically the HVX, but smaller and lighter. I can live without tape. The price may depend on whether or what kind of P2 card is included by default.
 
Odd that the viewfinder seems static, rigid. Not very user friendly. I hope this is only on the mock-up.

Disappointed that the iris is still a dial, and not it's own ring on the lens, but the dual focus/iris might be usable. Is the lens still an infinite spinner type? I wish those would die.

The coolest thing to me on the camera is a built-in waveform monitor. Histograms are nice, but this is a really nice feature on Panny's part.

I was never once disappointed by the pixel-shift on the HVX. It looked just as HD to me as the cameras with more pixels. Having said that, putting more pixels on the chip probably won't hurt, especially if it's native 720p now, and you shoot 720p (which is wonderful to me).

Agree with Barry on the lack of competition the big Japanese companies seek. It's peculiar. It's the one thing I like about Red and some of the other new players on the market. Agree on price also. This is a nicely priced camera in it's market range.
 
I think that someone mentioned the chips were 720.

That would mean higher resolution, though, and barry G didn't report seeing any higher resolution or better sharpness between the two.
 
Kholi said:
I think that someone mentioned the chips had to be larger (by some means) So it's assumed that they were 1/3" 720 chips.

That would mean higher resolution, though, and barry G didn't report seeing any higher resolution between the two.
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Barry made a mention that they may be a little larger due to the change in field of view between the 200 and 200a - but like you said, that says nothing of the pixel count.

In fact, if they are touting lower noise and better low light ability - that would kind of go against increasing pixel count, seems to me.
 
Page 2, by SPZ, says chips are reported to be 1280x720.

Anyway, maybe I read it wrong as to what that means??
 
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