64GB-P2 announced... so WHEN will prices of 32GB etc. drop?

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cici

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Some say, prices for 16GB and 32GB-cards will drop, when 64GB card comes out...

Well.... but the 16GB card got its price reduction BEFORE the 32GB card was out...

I remember also that prices can drop as soon as the new card is announced. But the 64BG-card has already been officially announced...

So what is true?
 
but it hasn't been released yet so I don't think you'll see much of a drop... EXCEPT if the fuji people deliver on their claims and then thankfully there will be some competion... Maybe to have 16 gig cards for 500 and the 32's for a grand... I'd be a huckleberry all over them.
 
Justyn said:
but it hasn't been released yet so I don't think you'll see much of a drop... .
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That's the point: once there have already been drops before the new card has been released (wasn's that the case for the 8GB or 16GB card?).
 
i'm sure they'll want to get the 8gbs off the warehouse shelves before the 64's come rolling out. by then who will want a 8gb anyways?
 
Funny but I'm so used to working with two 4 gig cards that I might just buy 6 more of them when the prices drop. I mean call me a skeptic but if you lost 64gigs of shooting.... wow.... I like to import once the 4gig cards are full and then review the footage, and then back up the footage (And even doing that on my most recent footage I lost things) to a cold external HD. So I can't imagine the horror of someone who waits for the 64gig card to fill up at the end of a day of shooting when an error occurs and they've already re-formatted the card... Just my opinion but hey a day of shooting lost is a pain in the *ss.
 
i agree with that HDkilled! im to a point where most of my needs are very well met by the speed and mobility of a pair of 16's.

if i need non-stop longform. id probably shoot to firestore or direct to a machine anyway...

not that a 32 or 64 wouldnt be handy just to keep in the camera for eng/one-off things.
 
That is a good point, but the 4 gigs will have to be purchased used. I'd love to have 10 4 gigs.. and that's what I've been using too. I do also like to be able to back everything up to DVDs...
 
cici said:
Well.... but the 16GB card got its price reduction BEFORE the 32GB card was out...
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No it didn't. The 16GB card has never had a price change, it was introduced at $900 and it's still $900.

I remember also that prices can drop as soon as the new card is announced.
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Prices can drop whenever they feel like it. They're not necessarily tied to any event. But the 8GB card did drop from $1200 to $700 when the 16 was introduced, and we expect that the same kind of thing will happen when the 64 is introduced. But announced does not = introduced, and the 64 isn't out yet. When it is, I expect that the 32 and 16 will have price drops.

But the 8GB dropped from $1400 to $1200 in January 2006, with no other announcement or external event causing it. So there's no way to know for sure when prices will change.
 
[CTRL+ALT+DEL] said:
[...] who will want a 8gb anyways?
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Any news organisation.

a 8gb P2 card is a ~30min DV/DVCPRO-25 load. And that's PLENTY for an average 2 min news package.

Many people have expressed their hopes that as cards get larger, the smaller cards (like the 16s) don't go away, but rather simply fall in cost until they become commodity media. There's a major market for lower priced cards even with shorter run times.

I agree with that hope.

- Mikko
 
from what ive seen. trying to buy last weeks card is an exercise in futility.

when the 16s came out, i called around looking for 8s and NOBODY had them. seems that production of 8s had stopped and ebay or forums like this are your only option.

it becomes a discussion of truly usable scale. at some point we will hit a rational usability level and people wont be sooooo ravenous to get the next bigger card just to get their work done - and that will make manufacturing bigger cards less attractive.

4 was WAY too small on the grand scale, and we salivated for 8. 8 was just about useful, but we still salivated for 16. 16 can handle most situations, yet 32 would be kinda bulletproof for most folks... blah, blah, blah...

i wonder if manufacturing might settle on an ongoing baseline with 16 being the conversational minimum. followed by 32, 64 and with 128s holding an ongoing premium pricetag (once they hit market) at least until the next storage paradigm pops up...

but screw all this. i still have my 100gig firestore that does just about all i need and has never failed me. ahhh - its so nice NOT to be on the hamster wheel...
 
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The only reason (for me), to go larger than 16 is that I'd like the ability to shoot up to an hour of 1080 . . . a pair of 32's would be just what the doctor ordered.
 
understood dreg - but FWIW, ive heard more problem on various forums with importing from spanned cards than i have with firestores
 
Barry_Green said:
I think the 8's already been discontinued long ago. The 16 and 32 are the current models.
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Wow, didn't realize the 8s were actually discontinued. I'd imagine anyone shooting features would think 8s (or max 16s) would be the sweet spot.
 
If you've got a place to offload readily and someone to handle the cards, 3 8's rock. Too much of the time that isnt the case though for me. A few 32's would be nice for those times out in the field where firing a laptop up is a pain or no one is around to card wrangle.
 
I've been using a fistful of 8's and a couple of 4's; in a start stop commercial shoot environment they seem ideal - you can d'load and review while the rest of the crew is doing whatever it is that seems to take so long... (laughing) Most takes are less than a minute.
But I recently did some shooting at a whisky distillery, all run and gun no stopping long enough to d'load - for that 32's or 64's would be best. Shoot all day, then review at the hotel that night (with fingers crossed that everything is there)

G.

I've never lost a clip
 
Personally I think that IF Panasonic wants to keep the P2 format cooking, they will hurry and get the prices down because from what I see, the competition is running wild in the storage market and the one that gets the lead usually stays . . look at BluRay . . once it took the lead with movie companies, the race was over! Express Cards are cheap . . I mean really cheap by comparison. So retrospectfully, keep the price on the P2 high and watch the competition take the lead. No disrespect intended but it is after all a buyers market that steers the ship.
 
Barry_Green said:
ExpressCards that can record video? They cost exactly the same as P2 does. ExpressCards that can't record video? Sure, those are cheaper -- but then again, they're not competition.
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Oh well, that's how much I know about the competition's formats huh? How about the HDV format though, how is it fairing the format war? I know a lot of people that have it here in Pittsburgh.
 
HDV's been quite popular. It's kind of in an odd place right now since all the HDV manufacturers (except JVC) have joined together to replace it with AVC-HD, but for right now it's quite prevalent.
 
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