SUGGESTIONS ON: Giving And Receiving Criticism

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I can't say how invaluable it is to have people that aren't just audience members but fellow filmmakers actually looking at your short and detailing thoughts. There are HUNDREDS of people in your life that you can show your work to whom are NOT filmmakers and won't have the same technical inclinations active when viewing. I mean, when I go to a theater I pick things up along the way, I'm not watching for them. But, my girlfriend doesn't do that. It's ingrained, and pretty much not going anywhere.

This is the chance to grab information in a more academic environment. One that NONE OF US are paying a DIME for. You can learn from your peers on what's working, why it isn't, what can make it better so that next time around... well, you know. And, that's not to say that you MUST CONFORM to every other filmmaker's standards. The fact is that you now know and you can better judge decisions on what works for an audience and perhaps not just yourself.

Yeah, you make movies that you would like to see, but I'd like to think that everyone wants to make something that a majority can enjoy watching. And enjoy REwatching at a later date.
 
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I would HATE to see a fest without your WELL THOUGHT OUT critiques, Kholi...no matter what side of them I'm on. Whether or not I agree with everything you say in a critique, I never find them to be personal or have any agenda other than helping your fellow filmmakers. :thumbsup:
 
Ok, so yeah, I guess I said some things harshly, that's my fault, I guess I was more in the moment at the time. I simply had to know the line. I'm not perfect, expecially when it comes to my "chosen" specialty, and I don't claim to be the best, even though thats what comes off in most of my posts, but I just had to say what I was feeling.

I'm still watching some vids, cuz I really do find it entertaining watching everyone's efforts. It gives me perspective in many ways. And I'll continue to post in the future, though not so brashly.

And If I gave you bad critism such as the "sound mix sucks," umm, I guess it just wasn't done well in my biased opinion. And to those I gave praise, I really did mean it.

Thanks,

I'll catch you all later.

KenV
 
I am slowly working my way through all of the films and plan to leave a comment in every thread. It might seem like I always start with "good film" or end with "great job" but that's because I have genuinely not seen a film that I thought was bad so far. I do try and leave very specific feedback about what I thought worked and anything I think didn't.

I haven't received any reviews or critiques that I felt were inappropriate of harsh but I have seen one or two in my travels through the threads. I've been lucky enough to receive what felt like good, honest feedback, criticism and advice which I'm ecstatic about because I'm getting the inside track on what I can specifically work on to become a better filmmaker. This is gold Jerry!

So for Kholi and others, please continue to post your reviews. I know I'm knew to this forum but I have already seen the immense levels of talent around here and I consider it an honor and a privilge to receive this kind of advice.
 
Couldn't agree with you more Champloo.
The feedback is really what this is all about - I know I've learned a ton from what people have been telling us about our film.
And I mean both what they liked and what they didn't like.

If it was all pats on the back, I woudln't be learning anything.
This whole experience has really been invaluable - and its the users who take the time give the thought out responses to the films that really make it that way.

And thought out doesn't always mean lengthy.
We've gotten more than one comment that may have only been a sentence long that still managed to open our eyes to something we hadn't been able to see ourselves.
 
I miss Kholi's reviews. He was knocking them down one by one -- moving through the list from top to bottom like a threshing machine on a tank full of ether. i read every one of his critiques. and I was looking forward (with cautious optimism) to his impressions of IFHY. but he stopped (and we all now why) when he was only two entries away from mine. this is a minor tragedy folks. and I imagine a lesson was learned.

Kholi..... :beer::beer::beer:
 
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Just catching up on this thread and see the mention of Kholi and his reviews.

I am a huge fan of Kholi's reviews. The time and energy he takes to provide one with his insight is so impressive. His opinions are so valid. And often he finds things that no other person has commented on.

Just as Zak has stated above, I, too, go around and read all of Kholi's reviews. I learn so much from them.

And as Zak as stated, I was so looking forward to his comments on my film. I actually wrote Kholi and ASKED him for his review. Something that I have never done before but that is how much they have meant to me in the past. (For "anyone" else here who is thinking... "hmmm, you just asked ME for a review!"... you are the SECOND person that I have ever asked for a review from! Because, I value YOUR insights as well)

Anyway, the feedback IS why I do these film festivals. It is so invaluable and I hope that I have shown to some that their critiques from festivals in the past ARE being implemented.

Kholi... I know that you are out there. We miss you, man! :beer:


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EDIT...... Kholi just appeared! Woo Hoo!!!
 
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